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The Command Panther isn't affected by its own aura though right? So the -20% reload that went into the aura is still a pretty legitimate difference between the it and the base one?

This is true, but in larger games CmP can buff other CmP. The horror...the horror.

Personally I only had 2 times a command panther at vet 5, so trying to say how op it is at vet 5 is pretty ridiculous, because you hardly ever face one.

I addressed this comment directly in the first post. Vet 5 should not be an all out win option. In which case just have a button unlock when it hits vet 5 that let's you win the game outright.

Alex, I don't feel it necessary to address your comments because you have not made reasonable arguments.

Well relic is nerfing okw into oblivion probably, might as well nerf this just because. I mean nerfing a unit thats OP in 4v4s but fine in everything else is ok as long as its axis. But not for things like FHQ in 4v4, or b4s on semoisky if you don't have stuka dive bomb.

Here are the bonuses given by the command panther:
Command Panther Aura:

0. +20 sight range +10% speed +10% ac/de-celeration
1. -
2. +20% accuracy
3. -20% reload
4. +5 range
5. Infantry now affected too

Wanna nerf it so badly? Lower the cost from 200 down to original panther then.

If by nerfs you mean that the CmdP should only buff your own units to godlike status, then yes a nerf. If by allowing you to not increase the cost efficiency of every German heavy tank in the game just by existing, then I don't understand how this changes the 1v1 scene.

This unit appears to be too effective in team games for its cost. As a force multiplier it significantly increases the threat posed by all tanks and vehicles around it (and ultimately infantry). In smaller 1v1 maps, where purchase of a CmdP limits production of other units the bonuses seem fine, but in larger games this unit is ridiculously potent. For example:

A vet 2 or higher AC with spotting scope can see almost 80% of medium sized maps without shot blockers just from this unit.

Panthers with blitz and a CmdP around are so fast that allied tanks cannot even attempt to keep up. Making hit and run tank play infuriating because the Allies cannot prevent a Panther from penetrating deep into their lines.

At vet 5, if it gets there, the CmdP effectively wins games just by being around. Infantry bonuses on grens or MG's is amazingly powerful. (Before saying don't let it get vet 5 I would like to point out that a binomial situation in which the question: Does he have a CmdP at vet 5 -> I lose, if not -> I can still win, is extremely poor game design).

I would make this unit only apply to the player's units who controls it. I would argue this should also be true for all Command units. Buffs/costs should only apply to the owner. I cannot prevent my ally from using a Sturm officer, why should I share in his risk?

With current status of balance what is the Wehr players rank? Is it in the hundreds? That was some extreme pro level micro there.