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vCoH like armor system (or inf type as it was called).

It is possible to do with the COH2 modding tools. The Issue with COH2 was that it was essentially a mod of COH1. During the Initial Alpha/Beta for COH2 for example Shock Troops still had the UI tooltips of Rangers from COH1.

COH2 doesn't even hide that its a mod either.




Anyway the current system that we have in COH2 is a result of Relic half assing their way during development of COH2 (They developed the game without a publisher as THQ had disappeared and later got picked up by Sega)

Hopefully with COH3 they actually put some real effort into the game instead of leaving it up to the community to make the maps and do the balancing of the game.

correction: the strategy has an UC being built immediately, and then you call in the squad at around the same time when its made

the squad and the UC arrive at the same time and then you drive the squad with the UC. This minute 0 volks and mg-42 shock strat is effective at surprising enemies

They have to sacrifice map control to do that though.

If a 250 manpower unit could beat a 300 manpower unit in an equal fight it would not just be OP but broken.

By this logic Pioneers are overpowered because they can win the first engagement against Infantry Sections 1v1 if they can get close and get green cover. For a 200MP unit, I can't count how many times I have won an engagement because of Pioneers as Whermacht.

Since you are claiming that vanilla Gren/Volks will beat RoRe pls provide proof of it.

COH2 is a game about Combined Arms, Cover and Unit Positioning. Royal Engineer and UC are only 2 Units. It is highly unlikely that the player will make more than 1 UC (since it costs fuel unlike the Kubelwagon)

As Whermacht almost every Whermacht player makes an MG first then usually go into Grenadiers/Ostruppen. This is just to cover your MG-42.

Royal Engineers Start on cooldown, so even if they make UC as the first unit and then wait for Royal Engineers, that is a good 30 seconds + time it takes to arrive at whatever point they wish to capture.

If they try to dive your MG-42 by riding in the UC (it is not the soviet scout car, units cannot fire while inside of the UC), it will get fausted and taken out very quickly. If they try to take out your MG-42 you will have Pioneers and Grenadiers (maybe even 2 grenadiers at this point) to deal with the Royal Engineer Squad.

Best case scenario here for UKF, they force a retreat on your MG-42 which they themselves will also need to retreat and or may have lost UC for that. Also keep in mind doing this as a rush strat with UKF means they would also be sacrificing map control as UKF cannot capture the map as quickly due to lack of units. Huge gamble for UKF.


Against OKW, if the UC is driving to melee range to drop off Royal Engineers this would mean that the UC will do very little damage on approach. UC has a long range profile so it does less damage the closer it is to something. On top of that all vehicles have a moving accuracy penalty. Assuming you are in cover, the UC will probably lose half of its life on approach (though it can safely escape due to lack of Panzerfaust) at which case Sturmpioneers + Volks would make quick work of the Royal Engineer Squad. Best outcome here for UKF is forcing your Sturmpioneers to retreat. In which case you know what the opponent has and you can either go for T0 Raketen, or save up for Panzershreck on your Sturmpioneers. If you go for Panzerfusiliers you could avoid all that and just throw AT grenades at the UC in which it would be a waste of manpower and fuel on the British players part.


Royal Engineers used in an aggressive fashion like that isn't worthwhile in most cases. It would be better and safer to just have the UC take advantage of its long range profile to harass and bleed the enemy then having it retreat so your royal engineers can repair them. Kind of like how Sturmpioneers and Kubelwagon do it, literally the same thing except they don't require a doctrine to do it and do not give up any map control for it.

Since you are claiming that vanilla Gren/Volks will beat RoRe pls provide proof of it.

I laid out the typical scenarios on what would happen in a real game. Even in a Vipper vacuum world where it is 1 Grenadier vs 1 Royal Engineer, as the Royal Engineer Squad is running up close to the Grenadier(or even volks)
It will drop a model or 2 before getting in optimal range and would most likely end up in a tie forcing both units to retreat which is rather terrible when you consider that Royal Engineers are more expensive than Grenadiers and you chose a doctrine for that.

Especially when 2-3 minutes into the game Grenadiers will start getting upgrades with the MG42 (LMG) and completely mop the floor with them. Not to mention that both Whermacht and OKW can field more units than UKF means that for a majority of the game UKF is on the defensive end. The one moment where you are mildly inconvenienced it is automatically deemed OP.

Now the synergy of this unit with UC has become very good since the UC can be used to drop them aggressively without taking casualties and the can repair a UC very fast.

Basically describing what USF has to deal with vs OKW with Sturmpio and Kubelwagon which is available non-doctrinally and the Kubelwagon can actually cap on top of having 50 vision.

Then okw just have to play defensively for a bit while waiting for more unit to arrive, like how usf have to when encounter kubel spam. If the UC happen to be too annoying, okw still have rak to fall back on.

Pretty much this. It is a L2P issue and against one of the weakest factions in the game at that. Panzerfuisiliers can throw the AT Grenade from like 3 miles away which is also available at T0. You can also make T0 AT Guns.

As Whermacht MG42 with Pio sight with Grenadier support will make quick work of the UC. For 60 ammo you can get a reinforce bunker at the same time or even before the UC gets its upgrade making the UC a waste of manpower (on a super MP starved faction) and fuel which the UKF player could have better spent on more infantry sections or anything else.

Been waiting for you Mod God, thank you for the blessing.

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