RELIC wont answer this because they are too busy nerfing Germans and sucking up to russian whines ....
After russians moaned and whined, you will see lots of german nerfs and russian buffs to please the whiny russians.
For example since the closed BETA:
Panzergren shrek range NERFED
Panther NERFED
Flame HT NERFED
Strafe NERFED (yes this was needed but not to the extent its now where its useless)
OPEL NERFED big time (why would anyone spend 300mp when you can get a fuel cache for cheaper)
Panzer 4 NERFED (now it can hardly kill a conscript squad despite shooting at one for 2 minutes)
Tiger NERFED (su85 will win 1 v 1)
StuG NERFED
Ostwind NERFED
In the meantime they :
T70 buff (LOL Wut)
SU85 MEGA buff (should be renamed SU100 imho)
You know the funny thing about you is that all you do is whine about the same crap in every thread, up until reading your post i was actually interested in the discussion, then i hit your garbage suddenly i don't care. go cry somewhere else. |
HMG spam is ridiculous, to the point that I rarely play anymore... Coming out the gate to see at least 2 MG42s waiting is just old and boring. I'm pretty much forced into getting a flaming clown car to deal with it, which leads to the same build order in almost every game. The OP is 100% spot on in all of his points. Nothing pisses me off more than perfectly flanking a HMG, then having that stupid thing keep spinning around and randomly setting up while my little fairy conscripts dance around it and plink away. Inevitably, one of the retards will auto seek cover or somehow run into the arc and get the whole squad pinned. Then I've wasted all of that time and effort for nothing.
So yeah, until there's a better solution in place, pardon me for not being thrilled to play this game. Another hint: my "brave" soldiers should stand back up after the gun is no longer shooting at them. They don't have to keep crawling around on the ground for 5 more minutes.
well said. |
I thought only the Scatter on the P4 was nerfed?
yes, the only thing that changed according to the twitch stream.
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I thought the P4 was only nerfed against infantry?
it was, but this is a German biased forum. i thought you knew |
Yes, change all the maps in the game because there's a unit that reverses faster than tanks move forwards.
yes change all the units in the game to fit a particular map, because modifying the map is too difficult and would result in an imbalance, |
Some of the maps (raaaargh Minsk) make it generally impossible to flank an SU-85 if it's well managed. Even on a good map, an AT nade or guard button will shut down any flank instantly and guarantee you lose your tank. Additionally, if a second SU-85 comes on while you're flanking the first (a very common scenario), it'll usually destroy a P-IV frontally before a P-IV can destroy an out of position SU-85.
Excepting that the Russian player loses all support units or overextends lazily and gets fausted at the same time, flanking an SU-85 effectively is unlikely to pay off even if you pull off the flank flawlessly. Saying 'flank better' is of no use for the StuG/SU-85 matchup. The SU needs a drop in one of damage, mobility or health so it becomes a unit you're forced to protect and support properly, and probably should lose the cone sight until vetted and get a bit more scatter as well.
yea but this is a map issue not the su-85 |
stfu ... mods can we ban this troll already
it's because of people like you that the game is in the state it's currently in whine some more. ban me for what ? i haven't broken any forum rules, unlike you with you profanity in every thread reply, and personal attacks. kettle meet pot. |
Yes it is ... played a few games where the Russian players used T70 and T34's (without ram) and no SU85's. It was an epic battle and first time in a long time where the game seemed fun without those exploit su85's. Panzer 4's are nerfed and its time the Su85 definitely gets one.
I hope devs are reading this and plan to fix the SU85's to make this game a little more interesting.
Man every time i see your name in a thread you're always crying about the SU-85,
can you please explain to me how this tank is an "exploit".. learn to flank properly |
You know what they say .... trolls of a feather spam together. Isn't it past your bed time chicken troll ?
i remember my first beer, keep up the good work panzer |
I actually killed three snipers before that, losing two Grenadiers and a 42, holding the VPs. You weren´t there. Look at the VP marker. The players sucked so hard that I skipped T2 and T3 - look at the building buttons on the right. I know how to support my units. This doesn´t change the fact that the Su-85 totally denied the Panther a retreat.
I´m under the impression you aren´t even interested in any productive conversation. You are getting personal and sarcastic immediately. I agree with panzerjager2 that you are probably trolling.
As for the only constructive aspect of your post: Nope, the Panther was supported, but I guess you never lost a single unit to about four Snipers in a 3v3.
you know what they say birds of a feather whine together, Fly* |