Profile of pantherswag

Hey mate,

My friend and I were in the exact same boat as you not long ago, we found this incredibly frustrating and just moaned for a balance patch but with time we got better and learnt ways around the SU85 but understand there is no silver bullet, no strategy and no hard counter.

You need to work with combined arms to deal with the SU85, now a good player makes this hard but firstly your weapons against it are Pak's, Schreks, Pfaust's, and Tanks. Combining what you have on the field to deal with this tank at the time is key if you don't have any AT to deal with it you have failed before you have begun.

Aim not to throw tanks at it until it has engine damage from Pfaust's or schreks if you can have a Pak harrasing it but only if you can without it getting inf rushed but once it has engine damage its time for a Tokyo Drift or a tap dance as we like to call it I will assume you understand what that means but ask for clarification if required.

Lately we have had a lot of success at beating the Soviets early game before they can even get a SU85 out, by harrassing fuel as a top priority and searching there nodes for fuel caches.

Also sticking to a build order and teching on time is important so that you either beat them or are on time with them too Tanks hitting the field, but everything is situational and the quality of your opponent will always dictate the game and your performance under stress so just keep playing and keep learning.

Perfect man thanks this was just the response is was looking for. Next time me and him play we're gonna try to gren aggro with some mg support and basically end the game before they can get 2 or hopefully even 1 su-85. I think we were kind of stuck in vcoh thinking where Germans do better camping out their side of the map and counter pushing.

Also does make me really happy to here they're going to balance the tank, it's probably my least favorite unit since the staghound lol

People comparing Blizzards resources to Relic, do not understand what they are talking about. At all.

Obviously Relic is not as big as Blizzard, and I'm not saying they have to put out the same support, but having VCoH be unplayable for some people is not helping the cause to make CoH a relevant e-sport.

Alls I was saying is them not updating VCoH in 2 years and then doing the server transfer in a non-graceful way didn't CoH2 look too hot. For the record I can still play VCoH fine, automatch takes slightly longer and there are some error messages, but given the abundance of other people complaining about it, I'm assuming there is something wrong.

People who are loyal to VCoH will transfer when they are ready to, and I believe that a lot of them feel as if they are being abandoned by Relic. Not saying they're right to think that, and I'm sure Relic is trying hard to do all this stuff at once, but that seems to be the perception right now among a lot of players. A patch to straighten out automatching in VCoH would do leagues to better people's perception of VCoH/CoH 2/Relic in general. Hope that clears up what I meant.

They don't gloss over it....it's just not part of that particular storyline.

Then why did the killing of civilians and unarmed soldiers have to be part of the Russian storyline?

That's my point, I'm okay with focusing on a Wehrmacht campaign that doesn't mention the many war crimes that the Wehrmacht committed, as long as the Russian campaign is treated the same way. Instead, in the very first mission of the Russian campaign, we see conscripts gun down a surrendering unarmed German soldier.
I understand situations like that happened, I'm not naive to that, but to not picture the Wehrmacht in similar situations portrays that the Germans were somehow better or more noble.

I know that they were not, and that atrocities occurred on both sides, that doesn't come across at all in these campaigns. To say that Relic would never "downplay the horrors of the Nazi regime" is disingenuous. They're clearly ok with showing Russians do terrible things, so why were they not ok with showing the Wehrmacht?


I feel as if that may be misinterpreted, so imagine this:
I make a game based on WWII similar to CoH. In it there is an American campaign and a German campaign. The American campaign takes place in the Pacific Theater, and the depiction of American soldiers killing surrendering Japanese, as well it being implied that American soldiers had raped Japanese women. It is shown that the commanders are displeased with this, but cannot stop it. The German campaign on the other hand, neither shows nor mentions any war crimes the Wehrmacht committed. Conversely, the German campaign is rather neutral, and instead focuses on the German soldiers and their bravery in battle.

While this campaign would in fact be historically correct, as there were German units that did not commit war crimes, and there were American units that did, the vast difference in the portrayals would be offense to most Americans, and people would overall be angry at the game. The game wouldn't be avoiding the horrors of the Wehrmacht, because it had just followed a unit that did not commit them, nor would the game be lying about the Americans, but by the contrast of the portrayals it would paint the U.S. as a bunch of monsters and the Germans as just some normal guys trying to survive in a war.

To be clear, and I think it is to anyone who has played our games or knows anything about us, we have never and will never suggest or downplay the horrors of the Nazi regime.

So that whole Panzer Elite campaign where the Nazis were portrayed as the heroes of the story? That wasn't downplaying the horrors of the Nazi regime?