Profile of Cardboard Tank

I agree the su85 needs to be toned down w out a question, but the video proves nothing new and if balance is based around who spends more manpower than a lot of people will stop playing. It's like posting a video of a guard squad and 2 conscript squads blobbed head on into a mg42 than crying the mg42 is op because a 240 manpower unit chewed up 840 manpower with out breaking a sweat and it that case the mg42 wouldn't even require micro.

The point was to show how ridiculous the buff is the Su-85 gets at vet 2. It´s not only a super strong vehicle that excels in speed, range of the gun, vision range, price. No, it also get´s superb veterancy bonuses. That´s for me the reason to almost never ever build StuGs. You FEED VET to the Su-85 and you can´t flank it. Hell, you can barely even shoot back at it if it reverses.

I) Anybody noticed the useless Bulletins? There´s one that gives Tiger, JS-2 and Elefant a 10%shorter buildtime... well, what´s the sense in this with a call in unit? That´s a relic from beta and should be looked into.

II) Some achievements are almost impossible to get: Let´s take the challenges for the Brummbär. You are supposed to reach vet 3 with 10 vehicles. This is almost impossible. I reached vet3 with exactly 1 Brummbär despite using it extensively.

III) Keep in mind Bulletins are useful to fool your opponent. You can often see which strat he´s going to do. If you see the scout car Bulletin, you can expect those. What I like to do however is either push Tier 1 units with the Bulletins, so my strategy isn´t obvious or I try to fool the opponent: Take both Panzergrenadier Bulletins for example into your loadout. You can now expect a lot of competent soviet player to go for snipers (worked about 20 times now). Instead don´t build a Panzergrenadier first, but a scout car out of your Tier 2 building and laugh. You wouldn´t believe how often that won me the game.

IV) Question: Are the both Brummbär Bulletins together worthwhile? Do they turn it into a beast? Offering 5% more damage each, and also 4% more accuracy and 5% better veteran gain sound also impressive.

I actually killed three snipers before that, losing two Grenadiers and a 42, holding the VPs. You weren´t there. Look at the VP marker. The players sucked so hard that I skipped T2 and T3 - look at the building buttons on the right. I know how to support my units. This doesn´t change the fact that the Su-85 totally denied the Panther a retreat.

I´m under the impression you aren´t even interested in any productive conversation. You are getting personal and sarcastic immediately. I agree with panzerjager2 that you are probably trolling.

As for the only constructive aspect of your post: Nope, the Panther was supported, but I guess you never lost a single unit to about four Snipers in a 3v3.

I saw some replays of Imperial Dane. I have to say there was some nice T-34 usage. The cool thing was that this resulted in a lot of German players actually using StuGs effectively.

But then all the games I play end up in Sniperspam combined with Su-85s. Why would anybody ignore an I-win-button?

Still the T-34 needs to be a bit more attractive and the Su-85 needs its goddamn nerf. I lost 2 Panthers (1 with vet1)to two Su-85s. There was no option than a frontal assault and I speeded one up getting behind one Su-85. The time they arrived one Panther was almost down and exploded within 2 seconds. The second one got killed 10 seconds later. No Su-85 was lost... time to ragequit.

I would deselect all winter maps.