The SU-85 needs to be toned, but in such a way that overall Soviet AT is still up to par of killing power. I'd advise any Osteer only players who feel the SU-85 is overpowered to play Soviet games with no T4, enjoy your AT options.
When I play russian I also just go for su85, its 100% of the time the safest best option. Dont think it should be this way.
I just, just wish the stug (T34) would be more viable. I am tired of always building p4 ( i assume you meant SU85) if i want to win. How do u like that?
Exactly!
I feel both factions should have more than one obvious best unit to turn to.
(By the way, I said that before the p4 got nerfed.)
Maybe if they want it to be endgame, keep it as is, change its name to the SU-100(It is more like the SU-100 currently in anycase) and just increase its cost to ~155 fuel, so it isn't as spammable.
Alternatively make the stug's range and los the same as the su85.
I also like the solution to make it so it needs to "deploy" when using the cone los ability.
I think its mostly about the scatter, because so many of the SU85's hits occur in a small area. Damage is high aswell, but wouldnt matter if it didnt land right on to of them every time.