Profile of Shazz

I don't find it particularly viable. At no point are its abilities particularly useful.

Camo - useful on HMG for the trick noted above, but that's about it.

G43 - comes too late, too expensive.

Tactical Movement - Meh. It's like "sprint" for PGs back in CoH1, did anyone really care about it?

Arty - too many munitions for too little effect.

Stuka - too many munitions for too little effect.


Basically, if you managed to OP every single point and for whatever reason had some Opel trucks providing more muni, then it would be useful. As it stands, EVERY SINGLE THING requires munitions in an already munitions starved faction.

The reason the doctrine fails is because it's mutually exclusive to itself and to the Ostheer faction. I can buy G43 OR I can buy LMG. I can plant expensive mines OR I can save for arty. Etc.

Suggestions to fix:
- G43 become a researchable global upgrade at the HQ for all grenadier squads that costs MP / fuel (like BARs) once unlocked.

- Tactical Movement moved to a per squad ability basis and made substantially cheaper, ie 5-10 muni.

- Replace one of the abilities (arty / stuka) with some sort of callin. Basically something that isn't munitions based. Could be stormtroopers as that would fit nicely with the whole infantry thing, but whatever.

Definitely feels more sluggish. I can dodge see a molotov coming well in advance and still have guys get caught in it due to bad pathing / unresponsiveness.

They also still do the thing that INFURIATES me from CoH1 which is the stupid dancing around thing. If I tell you to attack, ATTACK. Don't have individual models diving around for cover like an idiot. If I want you in cover I'll put you in cover, if I want you to attack, attack.

We are looking into this. The larger, somewhat hidden, issue is that HTD modifiers stack with cover modifiers. So if I HTD near green cover im nearly invincible. There are a few other issues but this seems to be the major one. We are working to resolve it though.

Aha, I had suspected as much with the stacking modifiers.

Also, thanks much!

Pz4 appears earlier than you can get t34 or su85
Its machineguns are absolutely deadly, infantry does not survive near

only idea is to slow it down with AT nade (which means my T3 building will be even more late) and finish with Zis AT gun. Both will slow me down early game.

Ostwind is horribly powerful as well. Pair of them killed 3! retreating! full! squads. I started retreating before i lost any men. They followed and disintegrated me.

That has much less to do with the Ostwind and more to how messed up retreat defensive bonuses are at the moment. Any AI thing can shred retreating squads right now. Grab a KV8 and watch as it destroys any squads even retreating in seconds.

Back on topic, Pz4 is 115 fuel after teching to and building T3. It's not exactly a spammable unit unless you are letting your opponent win handily. To put it in perspective, a CoH1 PANTHER was 110 fuel (though admittedly much more MP). A standard income of maybe +30 or so means at best they can make 1 Pz4 every 4 minutes or so minutes. Starve them off from fuel and you won't see more than 1.

Bad idea. Part of the interesting bits of the commanders is taking the good with the bad. Building your own commanders can only end in one way - 1 or 2 builds being best and everyone using that. See "any game where you can spec" for reference.