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I quit around 3 weeks back
The breaking point was ludicrous Goebbels style single player campaign (which I didn't play but was horrified by its review)
Bought the game expecting excellent multiplayer, as many friends hailed vCoH. Then I put up with ridiculous unrealistic and counter-historic units hoping it was done in favor of balance. Then survived several patches that unbalanced the game even more. Then I had enough, there is nothing in this game I like anymore. Let it die |
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Stug was initially for infantry support. Later uparmored versions with long guns did ok against tanks, but like was mentioned from covered positions.
You want to see real counterpart to Su85 you look at Jagdpanzer4. |
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why is stug being compared to all kinds of late tanks?
ITs main enemy are Su76 and T34, both of which it beats hands down.
You are not supposed to attack Su85 with it, never mind heavy tanks.
The Stugs "problem" is that Pz4 is so outwordly OP while costing not much more. Oh and Ostwind as well. |
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Useless discussion for 3 pages whether IS-2 is equal to Tiger. Its NOT.
And its anti-infantry capabilities... yeah, but tiger has one extra mg, so it doesn't lose much.
Its weird how you can compare armor of tanks, when german AT capability is so much better. Pak beats Zis, Pgrens beat everything and all german armor can make mashed potatoes of russian armor. With exception of Su85 with its sight range. Oh wait, Pz4 can just circle around and kill it no prob.
The way russians win in games is careful and planned execution with mandatory use of maxim and Su85. And even then late game is unwinnable without ISU152
Meanwhile germans can just spam any unit of their choise and ololo rush. When they get to pz4 first (which they do, since no need to spend fuel on molotov, m3, at grens) game is won.
oh and their mortar... 81mm spam everywhere. |
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it only costs 120? mother of mercy, russians have useless spot air support for 200, these stukas strafe the whole map for 120? multiple times for 50 seconds? |
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I just found out that I dont have this doctrine anymore. Had 5 premium commanders with my preorder, now its 4
I admit having IS-2 with fast free repair is a bit imbalanced, but why take it away? |
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Wasnt complaining about them having two Ostwinds, just that how powerful they are against inf and armor alike.
I thought germans need less fuel to get to t3 building, and they dont need to buy nades for conscripts either |
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Pz4 appears earlier than you can get t34 or su85
Its machineguns are absolutely deadly, infantry does not survive near
only idea is to slow it down with AT nade (which means my T3 building will be even more late) and finish with Zis AT gun. Both will slow me down early game.
Ostwind is horribly powerful as well. Pair of them killed 3! retreating! full! squads. I started retreating before i lost any men. They followed and disintegrated me. |
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It opens on command level 4, costs a fortune and competes with IS2 for fuel and MP.
So sure it should do some damage else it'd be useless.
Next you will complain that ISU-152 can oneshot a german squad. Which it can and does often. |
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For me, even 2 panthers is spam.
They are ridiculously strong (comparably stronger than IS2, because russians don't have as good AT weapons)
Panther wins a duel against TWO Su-85 TANK DESTROYERS
Easily wins a duel against a IS-2
Zis-3 guns don't scratch it
Indirect fire is useless
Two of them attacked our base and PARKED in the middle of it. We were not losing at the time, lacked fuel somewhat, but still were able to throw at them 4! AT guns, 2 conscripts with AT grenades, one of them had panzershreck, spam from 82mm mortar, 2 Su76 and some guard troops with PTRS. All at the same time.
Panthers survived that and proceeded to kill every reinforcement we had. There was some indirect fire from doctrines that killed us as well, but the situation was ridiculous.
This was not spam, so in spam situations, had 5 of them roam the steppes steamrolling everything, russians have no chance in hell to stop them.
The cherry on top is that Panther is the only tank that has 60 unit vision like assault guns and tank destroyers. |
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