Profile of ZombiFrancis

I'll give it another shot. It worked for me consistently in the half hour I tested it earlier.

I tried reproducing the bug as well, but I couldn't reproduce it in the newest mod version. I thought it was just me not being through enough. @ZombiFrancis, do you mind sharing a replay of you reproducing it?

I'll re-enable them and see if I can get CoH2 to run. If so, yes.

Also I disagree when some members claim that "Mr.Smith is doing thankless job."

He is thanking himself by over-buffing his beloved faction (UKF) while nerfing the ones he "hates" (AXIS).

Not really though. I mean, it's important to keep in mind that CoH2 was broken by Relic trying to reinvent the CoH wheel. Reinventing the reinvented wheel hasn't exactly been a fun or fruitful process. There are fundamental issues with the overall game design that these mods aren't addressing and likely will never address. Part of that responsibility unfortunately lies heavily on Relic. Having spent almost as much time in Mod Tools and Worldbuilder as CoH2 itself, I can relate to the fact of how mind numbingly insane this game can be to try and balance.

Which is why I maintain that design and balance are very different things, and CoH2's problems stem from core design issues, primarily involving maps and their capacity to be made. Until those are addressed, efforts to balance the game will be like weighing with a broken scale.

Cherrypicking ideas and presenting them out of context is a scumbag move. No excuses and no exceptions.

That is even more so if it's leaving out the remaining 80% of the context, just because they don't confirm your bias.

The OP, knowingly and malicously presented the packup change as a stand-alone change, even though it is our express intent to have this combined with emplacement changes.

TBH, I think you're taking both the production of this, and response to it, way too personally. I think the OP posted a specific change because the changes in your revamp mods have dominated every thread and discussion in the balance and gameplay forums.

Just move these revamp threads to the modding section already. People are freaking out because of the kind of power you guys have enjoyed over this game. Keep all this there until there's actually involvement with Relic and the community.

Feel free to invite people to try your revamp mod in balance discussions. In fact, do it with every post! You've been explicit that you want to try and get what you're doing implemented into the game. That's totally fine. I'm still pushing for the changes in the mod in my sig.

But until these sorts of changes are actually official, you really need to understand that no one is obligated to play, like, or care about this mod. You cannot with authority be demanding and expecting any kind of feedback and testing from the community.

So if you're expecting support from anyone, expect it from Relic.

I tried to write that last bit with a straight face. I failed. (I also edited the tone of some of this, as I am really not trying to be adversarial. I'm really just trying to be amicable about this.)

What the OP has knowingly and maliciously failed to report is that pack-up is supposed to come with significant decreases in durability and range.

By directly quoting a changelog and asking people if they like the idea of brits having a version of withdraw and refit for their emplacements?

Wasn't that how this whole issue arose in the first place though? I mean, people complaining about lack of non-doc t1 vehicle counters? Which, IMO, is silly because that was the vulnerability in exchange for the power of t1 openings, and like half of soviet commanders have guards anyway.

It depends on what you mean by how this whole issue arose.

It wasn't about a lack of non-doc T1 vehicle counters. It arose because Penals were too powerful in the early game in the sense that Guards could reliably counter either Axis faction's first attempts to utilize their tech. And THAT situation arose out of attempts to make T1 more viable by buffing up penals.

But the real issue with the Soviets is, and always has been, conscripts and T2. The focus on Penals and T1 is, and I am assuming this, entirely a result of office politics.

Also i think putting guards (2 ptrs or 2 dp, option to also get the other when t3 is built) into t1 and making penals (sans ptrs) into the doctrines would have been a better option seeing as guards are effective, flexible infantry without the outright power of penals (also then you have hand AT and penals just FEEL like a doctrinal unit... )

But here we are...

Yeah they do. My favorite solution was way back when they were 270 manpower. They were kind of a terrible unit that only had flamethrowers and satchels going for them. To me this was the PERFECT unit for doctrines. A 0cp penal call-in instead of 2cp guards worked great because they were essentially an analogue to assault grens: situational units that didn't scale as your main army unit.

And having guards as a stock unit just... felt right.