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that not fully true, if we take brits and ost and they bot rush for tank osther will have to give up in tier and tier 2 unit to make it in time, while brits skipping side tech will get tier 1 units (btw by skipping tier 1 u basically skip on faust lmg 42 upgrade and rifle nade)

i posted above why the cal 50 is better but to TLDR: better suppression, and while it has a bit worse arc it get almost pre nerf lvl maxim spam set up time (and the ability to fight vehicle from vet 0)

i think trying to put words in someone else post is a bit more, shaddy than calling someone drunk cause he did such thing (put words in someone else post)

First, this thread is about the Riflemen/Volk balance. This topic will touch other mainlines, but it has been fully derailed into a Grenadier discussion with MG42 and 50 cal comparisons, while you now try to go for IS for some reason. Far off the mark. If you want to discuss Grenadier balance, open another thread.

So I will just adress these points very briefly.
As OST you can't skip T1 unless you play call in infantry which are assault grenadiere (they get a nade) or Osttruppen (they get a faust after T1 or T2 is build). Previous discussion was about USF, not UKF. Comparing to UKF as a faction with balance issues is a good way to create more balance issues. Still my argument holds true. There's also issues with your argumentation, just a few: Side tech delays your medium, regardless of when it would usually come out. If your opponent rushed a medium, there is no reason for you to get T2. UKF is designed that they need to side tech their infantry and they need it to stay competitive infantry wise mid/late game. Cromwell is by far worse than the OST P4 for 10 fu less and can be controlled more easily due to the availability of OST snares.

50 cal:
The 50 cal has decent stats (not sure about accuracy though, I will assume it's similar) and I never doubted that. Also the DhsK has the best MG stats in the game, even before the buff. Still it was not build due to bad arch. The most important thing is that the MG42 will usually suppress in one single burst. More suppression than that is initially not needed for area controll. But what is needed is a bigger arch to also suppress the squad that tries to flank. I'm not saying that the 50 cal has no merits, but the majority of players (including me) would gladly give up any MG for an MG42. Also the 50 cal needs some minor AT options because otherwise USF has next to no vehicle control beside AT rifle grenades on vetted Riflemen, one single bazooka on the officer and shitty 10 mun light mines. Literally that's it. Unless you side tech and delay your medium (see above).

Putting words in anyones mouth is shady and horrible discussion style. It's still no excuse for insults. Call him out on that bullshit and I'm all in for some reasonable mockery and fun on the forums, but there's a fine line between mockery and insult and in my opinion you and some others crossed it or are too close to crossing it here. Keep things civil.

1 the is no recoil or spray mechanic it got debunked
2 got my stats from https://www.coh2db.com/stats/#86

1. Good to know that.
2. Looks alright, although the site is unfortunately very outdated. As I said it was a feeling I had, maybe it then stems also partially from vet boni, or maybe I'm just wrong. Just to be sure: Does anyone know if those weapons had major changes in the last two years?

Hi forum guys.
Add Japan, a good idea?

Your other posts suggest that you've been playing the game for at least long enough to know yourself around. You should realize that CoH2 has not been in development anymore for a long time now. Why do you ask this then, and even with so few effort?

And rifles can't be buffed without also buffing grens, which in turn means buffing cons.

Really, every mainline infantry unit needs a balance pass (at the same time) - there's just too many knock-on problems when adjusting them one at a time. Also, it would enable toning down the insane power creep that's happened over the years, at least with mainline infantry.

You rarely see the matchup anymore, but I thought Cons vs Grenadiere is still fine. Although debated Penals are also alright. Also Grenadiere vs Riflemen is not THAT far off. it's just Volks and IS that are overperforming

I do not have the commander you're talking about, but I do like playing with Osttruppen in 2v2 when using the commander that also gives you the support weapon drop.
Keep in mind I am not very highly ranked though.
I usually get either two early MGs on top of 2-3 Osttruppen or one MG plus early 251 for assaulting. That can carry you through the early game, until you get the support weapon drop for a PaK40. The officer can give some close range DPS, but I have used it with very mixed efficiency. Also I usually got a P4 (maybe StuG is more efficient meanwhile) to tech to T3 early on for the Osttruppen MG upgrade.

The advantage of the commander is that you can float a bit of MP and share the support weapon drop with your teammate or build caches. Also Osttruppen are good vs Brits and don't bleed you that hard in late game arty fest,
Nd if you want to have fun you can go full off-meta and get the officer and a Panzerwerfer in the late game. Then surprise your opponent with two Panzerwerfer shots from the same vehicle within a few seconds. Works surprisingly well,