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Oh I don't know....
The obvious fact supported by units statistics, screaming that its not a generalist tank, but an AT vehicle designed to outlast all non AT dedicated vehicles?


If its so confusing for you, lets remove panther from both axis factions and place turretless, fragile tank destroyer instead.
Give them both Marder 3, so you can no longer be confused.

How does my proposal makes it more generalist?
Instead doesnt it make it last better against non TD?
And slightly better in mobile AT role?
And more possibility of repair pio thus lasting longer?
You have 2 vet levels to combat it on better grounds.
You need to look closer.
Dont just scream whenever you see 'buff' on axis units.

640hp at 60 range only 16pop with pen/reload vet and/or Ap rounds, is not fragile now though.
I think marder 3 could come back as a doctrine unit, or replaces stug.

Neither is the big moving accruacy nerf for a tank supposed to be mobile. Does the changes make it go from 16 to 18 popcap justify? I dont think so too.

My proposed change to armor and moving accuracy buff seems fair. No?
It puts panther back in wehr army progressively, Panzer -> Panther -> Tiger.

In summary

Panther (edit i think making moving accrucay earlier is better, together with blitz)
Pop: 18 to 17
Vet0: 220/95
Vet1: +0.05 moving accruacy
Vet2: 286/124


Comet
Pop: 18 to 17
Fuel: 185 to 175

Anyone see this is not good?

I think reason why comet is less use, is the cost since relic raised it. Churchill is cheaper and much easier to micro and still do damages to all targets.

If you look closer, this change makes panther weaker at vet0-1, and scale better from vet2, providing armor and mobility to deal with allies heavy. I think its also good to reduce pop from 18 to 17, since nerf on new built. Ost is primarily pop cap limited imo

To be fair, we can ask does ff still need such abnormal mid range? Td have been buffed to dominant status, especially late games. This stats is remnants of older meta. Little things like this being overlooked, adds pressure to axis tank play when it have already seen plenty of rework.

Except it has a big weakass rear though. And the front dont scale into late games. Hence we are researching how to best distribute its armor. To make it work better for its 3Ts costs, to give it a clearer role, something that scales better against the rigor of heavy armour and ranged Td that got good scaling.

The present armor skirts feel short changed, a lack of reward for growing up with xp. And more importantly, dont scale progressively than the number looked.

How about 220/95 vet0. 286/124 vet2. +30%. Yes the numbers look big buff at vet, sure to cause allies players some noise.

But look closer, vet2 still makes no difference against it hard counter. We still want it to grow stronger against med tanks and heavy armour. It's weaker at vet0, meaning there is a dynamics for allies to kill it faster and for axis to feel rewarded keeping it alive, knowing its xp can distanced against max range meds.

To supplement this, i think comet can get cheaper, -5% fuel and 16 pop, to make it sit between cromwell and panther, and give Brit a choice between Churchill and it at 16 pop. To kill panther faster or dig in with Churchill..