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Thread: Stats from the WCS 20194 Dec 2019, 08:45 AM And which areas have no foundation? As i said, we haven't really tested a range change. Without practical results, the theory seems to work. 60td have evolved from rng range high damage en masse, to more consistent hp drain, still at range. We know 60td of today is too oppressive later a game goes. Let see a slight range standardised to each band of tanks will work. As above, range change seems to go well to classify the tanks in their respective bands In: Lobby
Thread: Stats from the WCS 20194 Dec 2019, 08:20 AM Well put and more thorough mrdoom. Comet at 45 seems good since it does AT and AI well, fits in the band. I will start is2 at 45 vet0. Churchhill at 40 is also sensible because of the armor hp. Maybe croc AT gun can be 45 but maybe no need as its cleaner all 40. Lol i thought puma is 60. Well at 50 seems good. Personally having heavy TD at 60 allows ATg to poke at them since 60td allies is no more. Which seems fair. Su76 at 55 seems a good standardise. Then again it is not too oppressive at 60. Im split on this. 55 should fine. Give the 5 range loss to its pen then Imo we haven't really tested the range changes. All along we just gone with history. So to say making this changes will break the game for allies dont seems clear cut In: Lobby
Thread: Stats from the WCS 20194 Dec 2019, 04:42 AM Putting further thoughts. Instead of callin range nerf! We can beautify it as a AT refresh. From high level looks like this 40 range Med tanks no changes 45 range Call ins changes, standardised them since they do AT and AI brawling well. IS2, Pershing, Tigers, Crocodile (ok poor croc but...) 50 range Panther no changes. As it sits between AT prowess of TD and AI of callins(loosely put AI..) 55 range Jp4, Jackson, su85, firefly. Superb AT prowess that gains sweet vet but with zero AI. (hmm jp4..) 60 range JT, Ele, ISU152 Heavy TD call in, self explanatory. Puma, M10 - squishy guys like older days of 60Td, seems fine unchanged 70 range Big Pak and Big Mac Pounder, no change. To counter heavy Td In: Lobby
Thread: Stats from the WCS 20194 Dec 2019, 04:02 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Dec 2019, 23:53 PMelchino7 It's not the range difference with normal medium tanks or 45 range vehicles but the current 960HP basically same rof as M36, Panther. The problem is not TDs countering every medium tank, which is meant to be, is that they are just as effective in dealing with mediums and heavies while keeping on mobility. SU85 and FF are fine, both have clear weaknesses. It's the Jackson which ended up been just a 640HP TD with mobility and turret. Which is a consequence of the unit roster of USF. Panthers always have 960hp iirc. It even used to have 320 front armour and 0.065 move accuracy! Reading through old patch notes. 60td were originally set as cheaper mass-able with explosive damages at rng range Today 60td are now less explosive but constant damages at virtually no rng. While costs gone up, but still higher efficiency as compared to their opponents, with crazy vet bonus. Imo the equation of safety range goes well with rng and explosives. A -5 range change makes most sense now they are dealing constant hp bleed, the need for distance margin should be lowered. 55td is still higher range! 55td still have clear sight/accuracy advantages! 60td should be reserved for slow ass ATg and callin Td. There are not much changes required down line for armor imo And yes jackson went from mass AT tanks to highly efficient AT brawler. In: Lobby
Thread: Stats from the WCS 20194 Dec 2019, 03:49 AM I don't remember Jackson got range cut down. From patch notes, it was raised to 60. Good to see progress in 55td views. I further add, tigers and is2 range at 45, same as Pershing. The 5 loss goes into penetrations. Yes increase their cp by 2. So we have Su85,jackson,ff,jp4 - 55td Rak since it has retreat - 55td Isu152,ele,jt - 60td, get heavier range nerf Tigers is2 - 45td, since they do ai and at well. True brawlers and fair since limited to 1. +5 pen at all range. Mostly to help is2 against axis stronger nondoc armour. Well, tiger will trade better too, as long allies do kv,churhill. About panthers much hyped ai, well the pros rather support their heavy call in with p4 and Atg, goes to show how 'good' reliable panther mgs are.. In: Lobby
Thread: Stats from the WCS 20193 Dec 2019, 18:04 PM Can we start with 60TD -> 55TD & 70TD heavies -> 60TD heavies? That should give Axis more breathing space late game,without having power creep. As for T70, maybe give 222 AP rounds or upgradeable to a puma? Conscript 7 man is too OP. Put them behind sand bags and Wehr is sol. Lmg grens cannot pen behind cover. Something about lmg is off. I dont know. It takes too long to aim/reload. Cannot chase. The only time lmg is good is somehow Sov just run into it, which top players easily avoid. In: Lobby
Thread: Stats from the WCS 20193 Dec 2019, 03:13 AM While is2 is a kt+ that managed to sneak in uncountered by wehr. I dont think t70, LV, are the big cause. As farlion said i agree. Sov is patched to point of no clear weak zones. Because their underperforming points were over highlighted and buff while their strengths remain. We also should stop balancing from pov that wehr is the perfect gold faction. Yes their base mechanics underline coh meta, but performance are clearly not scaling well. For example cons and grens are equal at stock but cons can build sandbag. Claims of lmg42 power spike is half story. Since the lmg42 can't fire on move, useless against green cover. Means it hardly can wipe and so easy to avoid. Or mg42 is better mg cos suppression. While true at start, it falls off the cliff against vet units. It hasn't seen a change for awhile but maxim adjust for the better while maintaining its speed and survival. Then i remember a late unit like brumbar had a good run pre anniversary classic, then its armour AND range got nerfed, it was never seen much again. In: Lobby
Thread: Stats from the WCS 20192 Dec 2019, 17:16 PM Soviet is strongest faction, for some time now Imo. The buff to conscript pretty much cement the deal. Wehr lack of early AI light tank, ok sure. But their old comeback mechanics of stronger late game, non existence for some time too. Not surprised they got pwned bad. Allies at 56% win rates are a touch too high, and we should look at buffing some Axis units or nerfing some Allies if power creep is concern. In: Lobby
Thread: Stationary PANTHER2 Dec 2019, 17:09 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Dec 2019, 14:27 PMMr Carmine 20/25% reduction in pen and 50% deflection damage. For vet 0 su85 it would go from 240 230 220 pen to about 196 184 176. 160 damage divided by 2 is 80 damage on deflection. If i did my math right it would taken 11 deflection shot to kill a panther. Too complicated and what is the final objective? How about the other 2 60Td? How should we do the vet bonus? Im afraid we may end up buffing their rof and become another usf Atg if it needs 11 shots at current rof...and still crazy effective against slow Axis armor 55Td just makes most sense, easiest to implement and wont confuse allies players much. 55Td on wheels is deadlier than the number seems. 60Td simply zone out the tanks, literally zone out. Allies can just position the 60Td behind and then just micro their infantry blobs, Is2, Churchill etc. Pretty much zoned out lazily from their 60Td. You are supposed to do that with Pak ATg, but to also do that with Td on wheels... And when you add their faster vet bonus, the accuracy, abilities, no chance. Besides Axis dont even have as good AT airstrikes. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Stationary PANTHER2 Dec 2019, 08:11 AM Oh yes i agree with TD counter panther. Hence their impressive td stats for their price shall stay. Just need a change in max range. It will still be advantageous but less comfortable. Imo this better than trying things like lowering pen or have deflection damages. Like how much to lower pen? How much deflection damage should be?50%? Will we end up as penning will still be same frequency but non pen deals deflection damage, meaning 60td may kill axis tanks even faster? Pio was just example that traversing 5 extra range is much easier with vehicles and 10 extra range is lazily super deadly In: COH2 Balance