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Thread: Wishlist for 201927 Jun 2019, 22:00 PM Define units roles better. Like Sturmpio AT package for 70 ammo. It should do better. Buildings cover should be nerfed! It should not feel like a stronghold as it currently does. In some maps, getting into a "building" near a strategic point, determines control in early gameplay. It is pretty biased! I suggest *nerfing* the building cover and make it similar to any regular cover. Just slightly stronger but not too much. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: TO JUSTIFY OKW NO CACHES, NO BASES REFUND! 27 Jun 2019, 21:50 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2019, 18:04 PMMakiesKurisu Everything except amours is too easy to scale for Okw now And remove the art flares of command panther plz. It's horrible to have an uncountable recon I do not think Command Panther has flares at all! In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sturmpio, "define its role" OKW infantry revamp27 Jun 2019, 21:41 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Jun 2019, 21:31 PMAlphrum Sturms are fine as they are, just remove panzershreks from them and make them easier to vet. Volks can have the option between stg's or anti tank rifles (panzerbusche) would be better imo. Having OKW rely one ONE unit for aggressiveness and pushes is stupid remember, OKW will only have 1 maybe 2 sturms on the field. early game OKW already struggle early vs garrisons even with flame nade, and these changes will make it worse. If u want flame throwers, go the festurm doc It is not about wanting! It is about fulfilling its defined and historic role. I said as long as if its not improved, its "undefined AT role" for Sturmpio which is currently lackluster. Then the change might be neccessary! If it is fixed, its 70 ammo AT package (if improvements are made), then I am fine. All in all, I just saw this as opportunity to solve the issues which both the Allies and OKW suffer + what they experience. I mean, they already do rely on one unit for aggression which is Volks only. This is a way to make Sturmpio more of the option also, rather than it being derelict mid and late game. Not Volks, Volks and Volks only as it always is. Also due to the fact they are viable only. Should be a variety instead! This unit (all for different unique purposes) for this purpose and that. Not one only unit that can do everything. Also because there is little choice. That is lacking variety! In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Sturmpio, "define its role" OKW infantry revamp27 Jun 2019, 21:19 PM I think of all units in game, in terms of balancing and requiring revamps. Sturmpio requries it of all units. For balancing in terms of early aggression. Maybe I believe it should begin wielding MP40s instead! Since the STG44 profile in stronger in many more situations, it might help lessen the intensity. Particularly against the USF which struggles at most to combat this early engagements. STG44 for Sturmpio becomes available after 1 Base built! ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ Now, the "AT package" option. Unlike the Penals, they have a very defined "AT role" with the 2 PTRS and Satchel snare. It costs only 60 ammo. Well, the Sturmpio which has also an AT option, comes only with 1 Pzshrek. It costs 70 ammo. It clearly is, for its cost and performance, lackluster and undefined AT role user. Since it fails in many scenarios to account as a supportive AT unit. This idea was initally @SomeguyfromIdaho idea. His idea for Sturmpio to get Flamethrower instead! From this site https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/246040/please-remove-panzerschreck-from-sturmpioneers-and-give-them-nondoc-flamethrowers So, I was thinking. Since Sturmpio's option is not clearly defined as it should be. Any only if it is undecided as to what adjustments they should receive in terms of their AT package. I believe Flamethrower should be their option instead. Now, here is why. Sturmpionier's most notable weapon is the flamethrower, used to clear out enemy trenches and bunkers in close combat. It's true defined role! It would make sense, as well for balancing to remove Volks access to "Flamenades". To reduce their accessibility to "cover denial" which should be Sturmpio's fulfilled role! This is how I see the gameplay: Sturmpio changes: - Has access to Flamenade when not upgraded - When upgraded to "Flamethrower", the flamenade is removed. The Flamethrower should be, less damage in comparison to others but has further range! In that way, its is not too overwhelming, just maybe! Accessible in the beginning. It is a dilemma. - No AT package. Given to Obers instead! - Or keep flamenade when upgraded, why. It will drain further their ammo resources and that it should be a choice. Diversity, I suppose and a dilemma! Volks: - Has access to instead Steilhandgranate (normal nade). No more flamenades for Volks. - Vet 3, has access to stun nades which were access to Sturmpio. In this way, they would be able to scale mid-late game. Since they get outperformed. It should function as the Osteehr stun nade in one of the doctrines Obersoldaten: - Although they come late, they should be changed to arrive earlier. T0 but have no access to MG34 until after 2 bases built - Have access to "AT package" costing 70 ammo with 1 Pzshreks. Shoots every 4-5 seconds instead, making it fast a AT handheld user. Can not pick up any other weapon. Limited to the weapon once upgraded! AT package should be available after 1 base built. - Starting weapons revamped, so that they are not too weak. They have 2 K98 and 2 G43 instead!. It should not be the same as most infantry bolt-action users, make it unique since its an elite unit, be different a bit. Why all this? Is simply to limit the accessibility to Flamenades for Volks. Thus, it will be only limited to Sturmpio. Limiting also, the overall early aggression. In this way, they have to rely on Sturmpio in order to push instead. At least be forced in some way to use it more often. Also due to the fact that they are not cost-efficient as Volks are. This will affect their early game strength for better late game. A trade, for balancing I believe. Also done for the sake of diversity! Sturmpio, becomes the cover denial unit for OKW only. Not Volks anymore since they are cost-effective. It will be less often that you would encounter cover denial and strong aggression! In that way, it is not overwhelming! To also trade their overall early effectiveness for later mid-late game! Thus they wont feel to overwhelming in the beginning nor kind of weak late game. To make them balanced also, as well in terms of gameplay! To make it also diverse! All the more, to define its unique roles as they were historically, at the same time to balance it more. Except Obersoldaten historic role but its for the sake of balancing and diverse gameplay! *The Title was supposed to be "Sturmpio, "define its role, OKW infantry revamp"!!* In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: New USF doctrine is too good26 Jun 2019, 19:26 PM I think this new USF commander is pretty good. The Riflenade for Echelons makes it a real lethal unit. It is like a free nade toss every 5 seconds. Really pushes the enemy to move a lot out of cover. Quite annoying I would say. I think it be great if it were a default option and if it were accessible across other factions also! Increase diversity and to some extent, increase micro intensity across all factions! Can be a game changer! The Sherman upgrade is cool making it very deadly and somewhat a better choice than Jackson in most situations. Since it has improved armour when upgraded, extra health making it a 5 shot instead and it has extra utility. Enhanced Anti Infantry capabilities with Phosphorous shot. Makes it one of the best upgrades you can get for mediums. In fact becomes the best medium in game in my opinion once upgraded. Other things also. I feel overall this commander is somewhat balanced, although the riflenades can be devastating and very effective in many situations, much more devastating than a flamethrower due to its overall effectiveness. It has a lot of utility that comes in real handy, making infantry do overall better as well as Sherman capabilities. It is like a package that makes USF overall stronger. Strengthen Echelon, Shermans and Riflemen. It is really a useful commander. Mobile Arty as a package included which fulfills their wishes! Everything the USF needs to be made "great again". In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostwind's penetrations26 Jun 2019, 19:15 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Jun 2019, 17:23 PMWiderstreit It is also way more powerful than Ostwind. ^^ AI and AT Despite Centaur being slightly better than Ostwind. I still think both should cost 90 fuel. It really does not make any sense to make it both any higher than that! In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pgrens and penals need some changes26 Jun 2019, 18:13 PM Price of Penals are fine and Pzgrens timing has been improved. I mean it is not like they are cheap! I do not like the idea of them being changed or nerfed in that sense. Penals are fine with AT upgrade being available early as their T1 base only option for AT is Penals only. Wehr used to be only grens and hardly pzgrens. Putting back as it used to be would definitely be a terrible idea. I like the general changes for Osteehr. It is a great improvement. Now its is more diverse and fun to play. Tired of only being able to pick grens only. I mean, now it is not as if there is zero grens being utilised. It is still being used. Ammo for AT upgrade is not cheap, its costy. 100 ammo for Pzgrens is a lot. It loses AI capabilities in the process so, I do not see why it should be nerfed. I think the AT upgrade for Pzgrens should be locked behind T2. In that way, they wont skip T2. That is the best resolution for balancing. This idea might not be necessary! Why, I will explain! The downside of skipping T2 currently is the fact they purchase AT for 100 ammo, in addition leaving them exposed entirely to Anti Infantry. So, there is a form of punishment for skipping T2 currently. Osteehr will lack most definitely, AI capabilities! You just have to build more infantry instead of light vehicles. This will counter Osteehr. Stalling for Ostwind is overall a risky and costy play. It is currently hard to evaluate correctly the way the teching for Osteehr functions since Tiger Ace timing is an issue! Pzgrens are great when they become available directly after when Battle Phase 1 is researched. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Improved portraits for Eastern factions26 Jun 2019, 17:28 PM Why is the title called "Improved portraits for Eastern Factions" when there is clearly one faction only! Unless it was called "- - Eastern Front Factions" would be more acceptable. Nice portraits btw! In: Lobby
Thread: Ostwind's penetrations26 Jun 2019, 17:15 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Jun 2019, 17:00 PMLago I used to think the same thing. Then I saw Jae's posts about the Centaur, so I decided to try it. These days I'll always go Centaur if I think I can get away with it. It's the difference between driving off infantry with a Puma and driving off infantry with a Luchs. I mean if you compare Puma to Luchs Anti Infantry capability differences. It is quite clear Puma sucks in that area. It is quite a major difference. The difference between the Cromwell and Centaur is not that huge a proportion against infantry in comparison to Puma & Luchs Anti Infantry capabilities. The difference in anti infantry capabilities, is not that distinctive with Cromwell and Centaur. Sure Centaur does better but Cromwell does well enough that you would not even consider getting yourself a Centaur. Also due the major fact that Cromwell can engage AT combat which is a far bigger distinction to Centaurs overall capabilities! Cromwell does well against infantry for a medium tank. If I compare other medium tanks that is pretty accurate or consistent vs infantry, I would have to say Cromwell is surprisingly one of them. Cromwell is actually, in my opinion, deals very well against infantry. Very reliable tank and for that price, I have to admit, it is much more worth the investment than a Centaur! In: COH2 Balance
Thread: TO JUSTIFY OKW NO CACHES, NO BASES REFUND! 26 Jun 2019, 15:57 PM Raketenwerfer is not spammable although they are cheaper than other AT guns available. Does not make it the best. As some people had mentioned but it is not true! It could be argued the most cost-effective AT Gun avaliable in this game is USF M1 57mm Anti-Tank Gun. It performs way better than what the Raketenwerfer has to offer in terms of AT. Rak is only good at recon mainly, otherwise it is not that great an AT support unit. It plays totally more an aggressive role than it does a defensive role. Meaning that sneaking it is the only proper effective way in order to make the utmost of it. USF M1 57mm Anti-Tank Gun costs only 280 manpower that essentially provides even greater AT utilities and perfect support. It is even better against Light vehicles and mediums than what Rak has to offer. If you take intel bulletin card that makes support weapons cheaper, it would make M1 57mm Anti-Tank Gun cost 266 manpower! Interesting right! Why is M1 57mm Anti-Tank Gun way better? Simply because of its useful abilities. Extra penetration (which increase their chances of penetrating even against Heavies) and range decimating light vehicles since it will have hardly a chance to escape compared to escaping from Rak which can easily be done! M1 57mm Anti-Tank Gun happens to even be also the fastest reloader of all AT guns. Explains why it is even harder to escape from it. Range is another factor that enables better tracking and chances of providing better AT support. In terms of the quality of providing AT support, Raketenwerfer is definitely the worst. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ Pros and Cons of these 2 M1 57mm Anti-Tank Gun Pros: Range Fastest Reloader Ability to extend range Ability to increase penetration (even increase changes against heavies which rak cant) Better survivability Devastating efficiency with both abilities combined Can be considered the best alongside Pak40 Cons: No camo/recon only Comes a bit later just by 1 tier if you select the right one. Worth with what it ultimately provides. Raketenwerfer Pros: Camo/recon Comes T0 Can retreat Those are the only good things about it! Cons: (Now, the bad stuff!) Slower reload Worst Survivability Highest Recieved Accuracy Limited Range These 4 combos ultimately into the worst AT gun as it does not perform efficiently enough for an AT gun, making it terrible overall. It is unreliable. Not only against heavies but even against lights and mediums! You have to snare the enemy vehicles in order to make the Raketenwerfer to be even be able to acquire target. M1 57mm Anti-Tank Gun, does not need a vehicle to be snared, "just leave it to me, boom" job done, single-handedly in comparison. It has better chances of destroying lights on first sight as it lands shots quicker and further. Turns essentially all lights vehicles upside down. Rak essentialy plays more a role as a recon than it does as an AT support unit! It fails to fulfill as a decent AT gun in comparison to the other AT Guns available in game. M1 57mm Anti-Tank Gun, is the winner essentially as it is a better cost-efficient AT unit. Rak simply can not be considered cost-efficient with what it can not simply provide in contrast. Proper AT support! In: COH2 Balance