Pershing doesn't seem to be as cancerous as the OKW Tiger because it has less armor and HP, it doesn't have the OP arty dump where you just blob the tiger into AT gun positions, pop the arty so the AT guns are forced to reposition, whilst they are repositioning Fusis/STG Obers blob in and wreck them with their good/OP moving accuracy, then it's Tiger eating everything. ISU is pretty cancer but that is not universally applicable to all maps like the Tigers seem to be.
Sounds like a well coordinated assault. Perhaps you could learn from it instead of bitching about balance. |
Riflemen also get a 25% increase at vet 3. 15*1.25 = 18.75
Nobody has complained about that and nobody has ever called for it to be removed, though I won't be surprised if some asshole decides to make a thread on it now that I've pointed it out.
USF non-M36 AT does not need a nerf. If anything Riflemen should get free vet 0 snare (not muni free, vet 0 unlocked) once Major is out. |
can we do the same for okw p4 ? if ti's just 5 fuel 
hell stug too
Let’s give the StuGG 15 range, 30 pen and 20% rate of fire.
Hmmmm, maybe 10 fuel extra is fair? Nah too much. 5 extra fuel. |
Do I have to make it that specific if we all already know what that is. Your just being Jerk right now.
The point is HVAP has great Pen but horrific reload, so you can’t compare the HVAP M36 with the su85. |
Dude It's never gonna bounce Jacksons. Hell vet ap Jacksons have a pen like ~400 enough to even pierce a ele.
But SU85's have a pen of 286 equal to panthers vet3 armor. Atleast bouncing su85's would be nice.
You’re comparing HVAP to standard AP. This pretty much sums it up. |
Commando will be killed stone dead if you give its glider to Vanguard.
You mean “when”. They’re dead set on making Vanguard broken batshit OP and no amount of feedback will change that. |
I don't wanna make panther OP, just be able bounce shots from TD's at max range.
Why? How does that benefit the game? |
But not very cost efficient in its "role" as heavy tank counter.
Which is why I suggested a small uptick in performance. |
Can you elaborate why the Panther should be considered a specialist?
Should a specialist not be, well, be special in 1 thing...
Ahh i got it, you mean the horible moving accuracy, thats truly special.
Besides that have you ever thought about how stupid it is to seperate P4, Panther and Tiger? Because the last time i read wehrmacht files all 3 were considered MAIN BATTLE TANKS.
Read the patch notes, the Panther is a heavy tank counter.
Really, would it really be ok to give the panther 4% range bonus in hull down. + how would that help ost when skipping T3 and going straight into T4.
Yes it would be.
The solution to that is simple: Don’t skip T3. |
Tiger is doctrinal so it is not "on the roster".
Actually part of the problem with T4 is that provides only expensive specialized units and it would be a much better option if it provided a "main battle tank". That could be achieved either by making Tiger stock (and Panther doctrinal) and adjusting it to be more Comet or by allowing the Panther a dual role possibly with switchable rounds.
Eeeeeeh T4 is a specialist tier so it’s best if it stays that way. With the Brummbar buff if the Panther gets a good uptick the whole Tier could potentially see a lot more 1v1 action. Panther going generalist would obliterate the P4 from the meta. |
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