Profile of Mazianni

doctrinal =/= isn't true. Any AT gun can tackle stock mediums well enough. The only one with subpar pen is the USF ATgun, which in trade gets the widest arc, best RoF, ability to boost pen to becoming the best penning AT gun, increase sight and range as well. So saying that USF AT gun is bad "vanilla" is like saying the pz4 MGs are dogshit because it's "vanilla". When in reality, people buy the MG upgrade which puts it on par with t34 MGs.

Please don't put words in my mouth. I consider the USF ATG one of the best in the game, perhaps only behind the Zis gun (and only because that can barrage.)

I said the weaknesses of the USF ATG would not be nearly as apparent on the Axis side, because of comparably lower armor values for Allied tanks. This statement remains generally true no matter the anecdotal (and quite often doctrinal) Allied heavy tank you choose to bring up. Do you not agree that the USF ATG, without any extra pen rounds, would perform better on the Axis side than the Allied one? At t0? If so, why not?

If you agree, on the other hand, tell me why you think the OKW needs it's AT capabilities buffed so signifigantly and so early on?

the base usf at gun can't pen allied armor tho Penetration near
150
Penetration mid
140
Penetration far
130

that's hwy it has pen round ability that increase it by 50%, a first strike bonus that gives pen for the first round would be similar but less effective

M36 Jackson Armor: 130
Chance to Pen @ Near/Mid/Far
1
1
1

SU-85 / Stug III Armor: 140
Chance to Pen @ Near/Mid/Far
1
1
0.9289

T-34/76 Armor: 150
Chance to Pen @ Near/Mid/Far
1
0.9333
0.8667

M4 Sherman / Cromwell / Firefly Armor: 160
Chance to Pen @ Near/Mid/Far
0.9375
0.875
0.8125

PzIV (Ostheer Vet 0) Armor: 180
Chance to Pen @ Near/Mid/Far
0.8333
0.7778
0.7222

JagdpanzerIV Armor: 230
Chance to Pen @ Near/Mid/Far
0.6522
0.6087
0.5652

PzIV (Ostheer Vet 2 and OKW standard) Armor: 234
Chance to Pen @ Near/Mid/Far
0.641
0.5982
0.5555

Panther (Ostheer vet 0) Armor: 260
Chance to Pen @ Near/Mid/Far
0.5769
0.5384
0.5

Panther (Ostheer vet 2) Armor: 286
Chance to Pen @ Near/Mid/Far
0.5245
0.4895
0.4545

cause it can remain cheap and be LV counter ? i mean the cloak would be stationary like the patch one and the first strike bonus would replace the pen rounds

Yeah, but Axis doesn't need the pen rounds anyway since Allied tanks generally have lower armor values. So you'd just have a high dps ATG at t0 for 15 fuel and 270mp with ambush capability.

I'd rather give OKW the Pak 40 - an actual german gun - than the same ATG model used already by 2 out of 5 factions pretending to be something it doesn't resemble at all.

Are Assault Guards ever going to get buffed, or at least have their veterancy and RA reflect those of regular Guards Troops and Airborne Guards?

They come in with a M5 Halftrack, which is great and all, but it's not really a discount and basically means you're paying fuel for these guys. Because(?) they come in a halftrack, they also have a later CP requirement (3 to 2), which is stupid. The halftrack isnt going to be gamebreaking because it comes in a minute or two earlier...

On veterancy and general stats, compared to regular Guards:

1 RA to 0.97 RA
Trip Flare Mine for vet 1 (really?)
0.71 RA vet 2 versus both 0.88 and 0.75 RA vets
Only upside is better accuracy vet at vet 3. 40%

So after paying all the fuel and mp required to call these guys in, you get a 100% RA Guards squad with 3 Penal SVT-40s and 3 assault PPSh-41 for a weird dps profile that favors close range but doesn't have nearly the DPS of Shocks or PPSh Penals, and has rather limited long-range capability. They do get a grenade, but that's it, and no abilities to close the distance to throw it, or armor or even a decent starting RA.

Can these guys at least get a bazooka upgrade or something? In staying with the theme of lend-lease... I mean, I personally even like that they come with a halftrack, since I love trying to make halftracks work in this game, and I doubt anyone would ever spam these, but the unit just isn't good right now, and there's no reason it has to be that way.

Well no other faction also has

• 4 men mainline inf (since when is Boister delayed?)
  
• to face Large AOE mortars
  

So UKF does have 4-man mainline infantry
... Sort of self-defeated point there, Bolster tech or not.

No 120mm mortars on axis side, aye.
Just Brummbar, Stuka, Lefh...