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You are comparing to a unit that is overperforming and trying to make another unit competitive against that...

Fussies will either be OP for cost or UP compared to volks. While volks performance is as it is (by that I mean a no Brainer unit that can do everything leaving no real room for any other unit to compete)

I say again, this is a volks problem more than it is a fussi problem and I'm not sure a 10mp increase is going to fix thr volume of problems that volks in their current state create with balance.

Volks arent op. They trade a fast powerspike through stg with a weaker scaling. Sure they are cost efficient but not op. The thing that made them so strong was the high mp available to okw at the start and their cheap cost. They were easy to spam and let okw snowball through the early game. That gets corrected in this balance patch already. No need to punish underperforming pfs even further. Just make them like penals. Higher cost, better performance.

They have better scaling then volks.
Literally any other comparison is pointless.



I'll help you with this one if it won't blow your mind:

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Volks cost less than pfs and perform better than pfs. So you say they need either a cost reduction, a performance buff or both?

I think pfs should be similar to penals power lvl in the early game. They cost the same (300mp vs 280+~27mp and 90 muni) and have similar scaling (penals are slightly better in combat, pfs have more utility). So give them starting 6men,improve their weapon profile (idk why their k98 is so bad) and increase cost to 300mp.

Soviets - General faction changes
Conscripts

To improve the performance of Conscripts, while retaining their role as utility infantry that excel at shielding and supporting other units, we have added an upgrade to help them scale into the late game. The extra man and reduced reinforce cost will allow them to more effectively trade against opposing infantry while the veterancy bonus will help fresh Conscript squads gain veterancy.

New squad upgrade available after the Mechanized Armor Kampaneya is deployed.
Mobilized Reserves: Increases squad size by 1, reduces squad reinforce cost to 17 and increases veterancy gain by 20%. Takes up one weapon slot. Costs 50 munitions.
When upgraded with Mobilize Reserves, weapon cooldown and reload on Mosin Nagant rifles is reduced by 50% when in cover.
Range Numbers: 0/10/20/30/35
Conscript Rifle: 3.61/2.6/1.98/1.346/1.0
Conscript Rifle in Cover: 3.91/2.87/2.21/1.54/1.22

From 7.0:
-Cover bonus to cooldown and reload from 50% to 30%.

-New DPS at ranges 0/10/20/30/35: 3.91/2.87/2.21/1.54/1.22

The DPS Value signifies 30% but one clause prior to that it says 50%. So what´s wrong?

STG obers with camo would be hilariously OP. They already ignore cover, have 2 different kinds of very good grenades, and can booby trap points. They would hardcounter pretty much all infantry at that point in any way, shape, or form.

Its pretty hilarious how you guys hype Stg obers up .
Why shouldnt they hardcounter infantry at that point? They have no anti tank weapons at all. They are pretty easy to kill (they have 640 effective HP against small arms at vet 5, cons vet 3 have 676 effective HP). They cost 340 Mp and 40 Mp to reinforce. They arrive ultra late. Meta units like pathfinder, shocks or osttruppen arrive way earlier and can use their timing better. In an even 2vs2 game the okw player gets his first obers at the same time a USF player gets his sherman! or even later. And then you have a stock weapon upgrade that synergies incredible well with medium range meathshield volks or pfs. I dont say that the stg weapon upgrade is weak or anything. Its just pointless in the current meta (and with a command panther call-in). Maybe a smoke nade would make them more viable.
And using boobytraps is just a waste of munitions.

About the Camo: In my opinion camo Obers shouldnt be a thing. But not because that would be op, rather cause we have enough ambush units in the game and obers dont suit this role.

Suggestion about Obers: Maybe we can give them a dmg reduction like current rangers have? So they can tank more dmg from tanks and arty. Thus their late timing doesnt matter that much. Buff their Base HP per model to ~100/120 and nerf their recieved accuracy then to 0,6-0,7 so their performance against small arms stays the same.