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The timing of Obers overall is just terrible for what they offer compared to other elite infantry. From my 2v2 experience its acceptable when you rush battlegroup into t4. But as soon as you go mech with luchs/puma/stuka you have to use call-in inf as an ober replacement. I just dont see a reason for obers to be in t4, while other comparable inf comes at cp2/3.

Mechanized or battlegroup could unlock Obers and the second built truck unlocks the lmg upgrade. This seems to be a more reasonable timing for me. If thats too soon, atleast make the lmg upgrade cheaper or free and the Stg obers a seperate unit. That would give the stg ability more flavor too.

Agreed, earlier Obers deployment without weapon upgrade is literally pointless.

Imo with our without weapon upgrade T4 just is too late. Shocks, falls, guards all come 5-10 mins ealier and perform the same. The unit needs either something special like reduced dmg (like grens) to compensate for that, or be buildable after the first truck set up.

I feel like okw got crushed this patch but not becouse of okw per se, but becouse of the buff of the british. Brits are just too good for okw, and the constant threat of t70+ aec + valentine doubleling on OH forces them into puma evry single game. Ginving them limited lategame options. Main Balance issues Imo lies with certain british tanks and abilities. Some examples:

Valentine comes too fast and threatens to rek OH.

AVRE just instantly wiping sqad (look final on elst)

Concentration barrage + free recon on the entire map.

Conclusion: if brit infantry is going to stay that strong some of the offmap and abilities need to go.

Another reason why allied performed so well is the easy click abilities to remove heavy TDs that seemed to be natural counter to ISU. That on the other hand is very hard to balance IMO. If you nerf the abilities exactly those heavy axis TDs might have no counte, but thats certainly something to be worth looking at. (slight adjustments to soviet rocket strafe would always be welcome )

Maybe the valentine,aec and t70 combo is too good, but isnt the puma the optimal unit vs that?
From what i have seen okw performed quite decent in the mid game. Puma was able to threaten light tanks, stuka wiped team weapons and stg volks dealt with sections and cons. But the longer the game lasted the more the okw player had problems.
Volks cant push is and cons, Kt is worthless, panther is ok but at only and obers die way too fast vs rocket arty. The only reliable late game unit was the stuka. Okw has like no way to deal with blobs/inf in the later stages of the game.

And yeah can we pls remove scopes from jaeger armor and mark target+il2 from the isu doc?

OKW:

Increase raketen crew RA by 20%. It's too resistant to small arms after the 5man upgrade. Explosive dmg is the only way to kill it right now which makes them very difficult to decrew. The rak was given a double buff to survivability as +5 range is a defensive buff as much as it is an offensive one and extra man is self explanatory. The 4man rak suffered from being one shotted by explosive damage. Increased crew RA will not impact survival against explosive, however, it will largely negate the increased survivability vs small arms which is likely NOT intended and hence a side effect of decreasing the chance of being one-shotted.

+1 the rak feels a little bit too durable atm. Overall i think most okw units are in a good spot(vet0). But there are 2 things that could be adjusted: The teching and the veterancy.

Problems i have with the okw veterancy:

a; Volksgrens
They scale fast but their vet 5 combat power is quite bad compared to riflemen, sections and even cons. Their vet 4 (+7 sight in cover) is pretty worthless. If we swap the vet 5 healing to vet4 and remove the sight bonus, we can give them an adequate vet 5 combat bonus (nothing major, 40% acc bonus like other inf and maybe target size to 0,70) so they can compete in the late game.

b; Obers
Nothing major, but if their timing stays the same, they could benefit from a reduced dmg veterancy like grens. So they get a little nerf vs small arms fire and on the other hand more durable vs rocket arty and tanks. Seems reasonable for a t4 unit, who has zero at capabilities.

c; Panther
The vet 2 armor bonus is mediocre. The armor goes from 260 to 286. The chance for a jackson at far range to penetrate a vet 0 and vet2 panther goes from 85% to 77%. That makes a panther around 10% more durable. Meh. Imo either buff it to 15/20% or just remove it and replace it with something like moving acc or +40 dmg.

d; Flak HT
I think the unit needs a hp buff from veterancy (like 222 or M15A1 AA Half-track), maybe remove the vet 3 or vet4 boni for that.

e; 7.5cm le.IG 18 Infantry Support Gun
Swap vet4/5 with vet 2. Getting two smoke range buffs in a row feels bad. The vet 2 unit performs like a freshly built vet 0.

f; Tiger B 'Königstiger'
Getting the reload bonus at vet 5 is too late. Just move it to vet 3 and give the kt something other at vet 5 (like churchills self repair).

With these changes Battlegroup would get some nice buffs, obers would be more viable, and Okw overall would scale a little bit better into the late game.

So purely for speculation (chance to get bigger changes implemented becomes ever smaller) here's my opinion on this: nothing will change the dominance of the Puma in the teching choice (in those two game modes). Mechanized will always stay meta with OKW's current faction roster and tech layout. However, one thing we could do is to make their tech less rigid so that it's easier to back-tech. Getting Battlegroup for just an ISG or healing is ridiculously expensive at 40-55 fuel. So what could be done is splitting up the Battlegroup like what was done with USF's middle techs;
- Cost of Battlegroup from 200/25 to ~50/5;
- Now only unlocks the medic upgrade (still 100/15, maybe move it down to 10) and the ISG;
- Add upgrade for 150/20 that unlocks reinforcing, the Flak HT, the Uhu and access to the FRP upgrade;
- T4 and Tiger II require a fully upgraded Battlegroup.

That would significantly reduce the cost of backteching for indirect fire and healing (from 370/40-55 to 120/20-220-35) which is more in line with other factions. It also has the added benefit of making the ISG available significantly faster which would help OKW on garrison or lane heavy maps (mostly in teamgames) where their early game is really bad against HMGs.

That could work. But i (2vs2 mostly) just dont see why someone would backtech. The isg doesnt offer that much besides smoke and dies vs rocket arty (imo one of the reasons why usf didnt get picked too much). Your ost teammate can provide you cheap healing and the aa of the flak ht is probably inferior to the 222s.
People will still go for puma into stuka into panther. And then the only reason to backtech is the KT.
But maybe in 1vs1 the cheaper healing could help some players.