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Thread: USF Urban Assault -Feedback30 Mar 2019, 15:32 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 14:32 PMjagd wölfe "Uhm yes 47 degrees angled armor is better than 55 degrees angled armor." No, sloping is accounted as angle from the vertical axis, the higher number the better. That's why Tiger and Comet are accounted as close to 0 sloping This is fu#!ing basics lmao. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Sherman "The Sherman's glacis plate was originally 50.8 mm (2.00 in) thick and angled at 56 degrees from the vertical, providing an effective thickness of 90.8 mm " "Later Shermans had an upgraded glacis plate that was uniformly 63.5 mm (2.50 in) thick and sloped at 47 degrees from the vertical, providing an effective thickness of 93.1 mm (3.67 in) over the entire plate." "EDIT: There was no overmatching for puma versus sherman front armor, as it was 51mm thick. Maybe learn what overmatching is." http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/m4sherman.html "Starting in late 1943 at the Fisher Tank Arsenal, the 56° glacis on the M4A2 was replaced by a single-piece plate inclined at 47° from vertical." The pre 1944 hull glacis was two pieces of armor casted togheter, 30 + 21mm, 50mm did overmatch M4a2 and M4a1 Kwk39 APC penetration at 450-500ms is 79-80 mm, and it did penetrate m4a2 hull despite its effective protection was 91mm because of overmatching. So yeah, maybe YOU learn how sloping is accounted for and how armor works When you count from vertical, the source you provided states early m4a1 model at 37° to 55° and M4A3(76mm)HVSS (easy8) at 47° which is overall improvemed in combination with thicker armor. I didnt have encyclopedia when i was writing my original post, the point was that easy8 is improvement in terms of armor in comparison to previous variants. Your source says nothing about 39 kwk overmatching sherman armor. Also no sources of puma ever penetrating sherman front. In: Lobby
Thread: USF Urban Assault -Feedback30 Mar 2019, 14:14 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 14:12 PMMrBananaGrabber. This scene from a WW2 documentary shows how useful Shermans were for urban fighting. Especially against tigers. Libtard tiger owned epic style. In: Lobby
Thread: USF Urban Assault -Feedback30 Mar 2019, 13:51 PM Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 13:14 PMjagd wölfe That's not even true in the slightest way. M4A3 all have 47 degrees sloped hull if produced after 1943, and it wasn't "better sloping", it was actually less sloped but a unique piece glacis compared to 50 degrees sloped 2 piece front plate glacis. It was better because it denied Puma and Panzer 3 50mm overmatching. Uhm yes 47 degrees angled armor is better than 50 degrees angled armor. You even said yourself easy8 has 47 degrees sloped hull and that its better, so how excatly "that's not even true in the slightest way"? EDIT: There was no overmatching for puma versus sherman front armor, as it was 51mm thick. Maybe learn what overmatching is. In: Lobby
Thread: USF Urban Assault -Feedback30 Mar 2019, 11:54 AM Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 11:04 AMSander93 So in your eyes slightly better sloped front armor gave it better protection in urban combat, where the biggest dangers are getting hit in the flanks or from above? Right. The Easy 8 has nothing to do with urban combat. At best, the Sherman 105 fits the theme. The new suspension system let crews apply more field modifications, concrete side "skirts" and salvaged armor pieces welded to front and sides were common. Anything fits more than calliope, in fact this whole commander doesnt fit its own theme. In: Lobby
Thread: USF Urban Assault -Feedback30 Mar 2019, 10:14 AM Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 09:58 AMSander93 The Easy 8 basically had the exact same armor as earlier Shermans, the only real difference is that it used a much better suspension. Nothing that made it any more suited for urban combat. The Easy 8 doesn't fit the theme any better than Riflemen Field Defenses. The Easy 8 had better armor values with improved sloping at 47 degrees in addition to new suspension system. It fits the theme much better than calliope which was never used in urban combat. In: Lobby
Thread: USF Urban Assault -Feedback30 Mar 2019, 01:06 AM Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 00:29 AMnigo Sherman 105 is the way for this Commander. Yup, sherman 105 would be ideal here. Has bonus damage versus garrisons and increased protection, perfect unit for urban assault. You know what else would be ideal in urban assault commander? Assault engineers. CQC squad with flamers and demo charges, perfect versus garrisons, emplacemants and low range urban fighting. Some artillery to level area would be good too. Like for example 240mm howitzer barrage. Destroys buildings in huge area, forces enemies to leave garrisons. And then you realize USF has perfectly viable urban assault commander, its called Armor Company and is stronger and more coherent than this new commander, which has no synergy between its abilities. Ironically, USF lacks good armor commander, something like Armored Assault or this new ostheer commander. And when it comes to calliope, Tactical Support has way better synergy, with recon overflight spotting for targets and p47 strafe keeping them in place. All it needs is decrese in cost for its abilities: recon overflight from 80 to 60 muni and p47 strafe from 125 to 60 muni, excatly the same cost as ostheer abilities. In: Lobby
Thread: USF Urban Assault -Feedback30 Mar 2019, 00:18 AM Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2019, 23:13 PMGI John 412 The E8 was primarily just a version of the Sherman with better suspension. It had other upgrades as well, but was not designed for urban combat. Like I said, it’s just a product improved Sherman, typical of a late war or post war Sherman tank. If you want a better Sherman in the doctrine then bundle the 76mm Sherman with dozer blades like it is in the other commander, then yeah, remove calliope and add in rifleman field defenses. So E8 was improved sherman, with better gun and armor. Excatly what i said, thanks for confirmation. If you want 2 armored vehicles in usf commander thats no go because reasons, but okw p4 + tiger for ostheer is ok. Explain. In: Lobby
Thread: USF Urban Assault -Feedback29 Mar 2019, 22:53 PM Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2019, 22:46 PMGI John 412 The short answer is yes. The E8 was a product improved version of the M4 medium tank and had no real specialized role for urban operations. It was just a better Sherman. Digging in on captured ground is essential in urban combat. I think it also works well with RE riflegrenades as it gives them yet another reason to stick near riflemen, who build them cover to safely shoot their grenades from while the riflemen use the cover as a jumping off point for further assaults. Yes. It fits the theme. E8 was uparmored sherman variant, better at taking punishment from AT infantry and enemy AT emplacements, perfect in urban enviroment. Yes it fits the theme. Digging in on urban maps when there is plenty of garrisons still makes less sense than building defensive positions on open maps. Also im curious what would you remove to make space for sandbags, maybe calliope? I would actualy support that idea since calliope in its current state is hot garbage, much worse than katyusha and much more expensive. In: Lobby
Thread: USF Urban Assault -Feedback29 Mar 2019, 22:25 PM Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2019, 22:20 PMGI John 412 Riflemen field defenses added in somewhere would be nice. A big part of urban fighting is manipulating cover and creating obstacles for your fields of fire. A wall of sandbags turns an indefensible negative cover street into a strongpoint with great fields of fire. I think it combines well with the rifle grenades as well, which I actually really like as they were a staple of real US doctrine in urban areas more so than flamethrowers which were bulky and highly situational. As much as I’d like to see more E8s used, I don’t think they fit the theme of the doctrine very well. Dozer blades are good for the theme, but could use a buff as they aren’t perticularly great. So you say easy8 wouldnt fit urban assault theme and instead are proposing defensive positions to urban assault commander? There are some leaps in logic here. In: Lobby
Thread: mayby why axis is popular29 Mar 2019, 14:07 PM Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2019, 12:21 PMMr Carmine I think its a combi between ease of play and the cooler looking or more iconic weapons and tanks. Tigers and panthers are just cooler then a sherman t34 cromwell or firefly. And more easy to use in their roles. Mg42 sounds a lot cooler and is more effective then most allied mg,s. You are right, devs really tried to depict axis factions (mostly okw) as the "cool kids" Easy8, pershing, jumbo could be just as cool if they were (properly) implemented. USAAF air supremacy could be just as cool if it was depicted in this game. Instead OKW, which shouldnt have any meaningful plane-based abilities, has better air support than usf (this is the biggest joke of this game). USF war machine could be just as cool, giving you global upgrades and improvements to tanks and infantry, but its actualy axis factions that get easier access to weapon upgrades and even get upgrades to their tanks (side skirts, tank commanders, heat rounds). Somehow first coh did it all better, in coh2 they tried to make usf faction as shit as possible, stripping them from any recognizable trait they had in real life. No artillery adventage, no air supremacy, no allied war machine, no meaningful special armor outside pershing, just rifle spam and some light vehicles. In: Lobby