sturm don't have sand bag cause they are over burned with roles, i tried to address this with a rework hopefully the mod team does something similar
and cons/grens being unceremoniously raped by volks for 10mp is validated by your changes somehow? |
It is balanced.
You not being able to accept it doesn't change the fact.
Read patch notes.
Alternative was buffing the gun itself. Up for that?
Normally reading patch notes is a good thing, do it more often to look less stupid and entitled in the future.
P4 is more expensive, because it has much better armor, much better gun(both AI and AT), can shoot at planes and has much better vet.
this is not even adding how bad core soviets performed a few patches ago before the guards buffs... even with the penal bull rush they had barely any lategame capability (though penal flamers were amazing early on) and melted like butter to the volksblob and the grenblob... people dont seem to realize that the soviets are only really competing nowadays through doctrines... and this practice has to stop...
core soviet must be buffed up to other faction standards... and these biased axis mains should stop forcing the soviets to rely on band aide just to remedy a deficiency in core units... |
It will not make it UP, but balance it.
T34 hull MG is broken, it makes as much damage as both MGs of P4. While P4 will shoot at different dargets (most time) T34 wilö focus on one model. If it is a PaK-crew that is like sniping them. Also the animator is broken, it shoot while not indicate the fire.
-> normally that is something nobody has do speak about, it is broken.
Nerfing the MG of T34 will be a reason why P4 is more expensive. It will still have the ebtter AI gun.
great... lets make core soviet even worse and force the soviets to rely on doctrines even more... note that even with overpowered (guards) and powerful (T-34-85/KV-8) doctrinal units the average soviet winrate is still very close to that of wehrmacht... by nerfing core soviet units you are further aggravating the issue without dealing with the true problem...
TLDR nerf DOCTRINAL soviet units... not CORE units |
Agreed. This makes mg42 not as good as it sounds. Slightly wider arc slightly faster suppression, but slower in everything else and lower damages
I don't know man..
soo basically a much more survivable deathloop free machinegun thats 20mp cheaper... that suppresses only a teeny bit slower sets up a little bit faster and deals a bit less damage... has the most bonkers ability (API) that doubles the damage dealt and erases vehicles faster than your machinegun ever can and gets a wider arc is somehow worse because "iT hAS tErRiBlE tRaVeRsE"
id be willing to bet that if the MG42 and the 50 cal would switch you axis babies would cry even harder |
The traverse is trash on the 42 which neglects its large arc. I'd rather,
-decrease the arc
-increase traverse speed
-decrease setup time
-add death loop
then see it as is.
U actually cant add the death loop... the death loop for the maxim and 50 cal exist because of their models used... and afaik thats hardcoded to the game... |
since u ointed at that therad u don't mind this quote from mr smith "
The Katyusha is, currently, extremely strong. It only sucks if you are doing max-range barrages into the fog of war.
" so no pwefer is not stronger than kat they are both fine
I said the katyusha is fine... its quite useful in smaller games... its just that the panzerwerfer is BETTER
it is BETTER at killing models
it is BETTER at suppressing blobs
And it is BETTER at doing wipes
The only thing the katyusha is BETTER at is area denial
again it costs 140 fu u can basically have 2 t3 76 , 3 t 34 76 will cost less than 2 okw p4s
Yes but you seem to be incapable of understanding the point.... the soviets lack durable vehicle AI...
and u pay 90 fu not 110 like the sharman, saying it's not durable cause u are biased does not count, as u said before " its going to die to AT guns just as quickly as the flametruck" it's going to die to the same 4 hit form at gun both p4 and Sherman (let me guess u only are allowed to chose what is important and what isn't right ? even if u ur self said it beofre)
As i said... bleeding 90 fuel is worse than bleeding none at all... the issue is the soviets dont have the option of durable AI.. |
T34/76 is faster than P4 as stock, you need more speed? Road-killing is allii meter -> noob verhicles.
Edit: T34/76's AI is too strong, nerf the MG to compensate the good gun, like I say since years. Maybe give it 20 more HP, so it survives more hits.
Lmao this tank wasnt even used prior to its buff and now you want to make it useless again? The T-34-76 is fine as AI... it just doesnt fill the same role as a sherman or an OKW P4 can |
lower spread means missile will be more tightly packed and will wipe more easily
https://www.coh2.org/topic/49245/nerf-the-panzerwerfer-already
Read mr smiths post... the katy has less scatter at max range and mote scatter at minimum range...
But max range is irrelevant soo no... it doesnt work that way
the t 34 76 is durable,it's just 10 armor less than sherman while being around 80% the cost
Durability isnt about raw stats alone... the T-34 may take the same hits to kill as a sherman... but the sherman will survive situations the T-34 wont because of smoke...
what does the okw have aside from stuka for long range ai ? cause kt is not long range and is an heavy tank
and u are not counting t 34 7 so why should u count p4 ?
Ohh if only i had a medium tank with 187 base armor and combat blitz... ohh wait... |
again they have different role saturation and alpha strike, btw u need to retreat from kat too as it has lower spread than pwefer (and has better aoe damage)
ahh yes i forgot... it has lower spread which means it saturates the target less than the pwerfer does...
again u are now coparing to vet ability and do u expect the okw p4 which cost 60 more fuel to be the same as t 34 76 ? why does the luch lose to t 34 again ?
its a vet ability... but it is an escape mechanism nonetheless
and the comparison is there to elucidate the point that the soviets have no durable core vehicle AI
smoke is doc ? are we comparing doc now ? or is it fit only when u like it ?
Sherman smoke is nondoc dumbass
btw yes a static AI option for su 76 would not make it cheesy and op, nahhh not like the old su 76 spam nahhhhh totally different
besides the katy what do the soviets have as nondoc vehicle AI? and what do u propose to remedy this deficiency |
and they have 0.03 less RA, so they become equal
great... now why can volks make sandbags and rifles cant?
and why are they overtly superior to cons and grens... especially cons considering how the maxim is but a joke? |
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