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Lets just say it this way.

It takes 40 seconds for P47 to deal all possible damage to target.
It takes around 50-55 seconds for Stuka to deal all possible damage.

P47 fly around the map from corner to corner, which means its harded to shot it donw.
Stuka fly over small circly and being much more vulnerable for AA.

P47 always have stable damage.
Stuka is kinda RNG dependant, because it can start attack from the front or from the rear armor, which makes huge difference.

And its all about heavies, mediums is a whole different story.

I can do with mediuns, even with moving targets, I almost Guarantee that the result will be the same since Stuka damage engine and stuns.

Stop lying to yourself, just admit that Stuka is way superior than p47.

I can read just fine thanks. I simply disagree with what your proposing. As I have explained loitering planes need a redesign so that they are not OP in small modes and UP in large modes (planes can be shot down before even firing).

In your hypothetical scenario the axis have invested around 2.290 manpower and 595 fuel in AT only assets (without counting tech cost), so there is no reason for allies to use armor to attack them. One can use infantry and ATG to counter Ostheer Panthers and JTs...

So you think Ostheers can't have 2 panther and a pak and still have a lot of infantry?
Same as OKW with JGTiger and one reketen and still have infantry.

P47 is an Expensive late game ability and should be efficient. And you still have the chance to escape and to avoid.
Like Air Supremacy Operation.

edit: If it could at least damage engine and stuns, would be already an OK ability.

And 80 range autoattack is the same of isg autoattack, but on top of that pack has good aoe.
At any range at which mortar can hit it pack has still less scatter and better aoe.
The three shells limit is a pain in the a** but giving vet 0 4 shells is quite op.

Isg itself need a nerf/buff overhaul that put it closer to pack howie imho.

Both sherman he and scott projectiles have aoe, so i don't get how they are good against single squads.
A bunched blob is going to suffer terribly from both and 60 range is enough for trolling blobs.

Nah that is cheese bullshit, priest is good, period, no freaking decrew.
Priest is far more annoying against okw than calliope,with their constant pounding.
Calliope is less situational and more of a wiping tool

How jackson can be a dead weight ? i thought it was more of a su85, jadgpanzer 4, stug issue, how can a turretted tank have issues regarding maps ?

Lets do a pretty commom hipotetical scenario.
2v2. You are USF, with a Brit teammate against OKW + Ostheer.
Ostheer builded 2 panthers, and you counter with 2 Jacksons and your friend with Firefly and a crocodile. But OKW builded a JGTiger.
now OKW have JGTiger and Ostheers have 2 panthers.
They have one Pak40 and one Reketen.
You have caping the fuel for all the game so can build one of your late game units to your advantage. (Calliope, Priest, Pershing)
You all are Popcap.

JG tiger have 525 frontal armor and 1280 hit points and you have 220 pen and 480 hit points, so your chance to pen frontal armor is 41%.
You die with 3 shots from a panther. Panther always pen you, but you have 68% chance to pen panther and panther have 800 hit points, so you can kill him with 4 shots if you pen all of them, but how can you win this engage.
And Jackson dies with 1 shot from JGtiger + 1 shot from reketen.
What you would do?
1) You can go frontal, but its pretty suicide since JG have more range and they are covers by pak 40.
2) You can try to go around, but you will face two panthers turning to you and a fast moving reketen (Not counting pak 40 and JGTiger turning)
3) Smoke and try to focus on tank, thats the best approach, but since you need 4 perfect shots to kill the panther. It may scape and still have a lot of AT to deal with it
4) Use the real punisher of tank bloobs, the p47 rocket Strafe run that has been balanced because we had a conclusion that USF may need this ability to this kind of situation. And now can flank with your Jacksons while the enemy is kiting the the p47 and they can not stay stationary so you have the advantage and win the game.

Why are you such a butthurt ?

Is he?
USF had maybe the only ability to stay in the late game, the p47 rockets could shut down high profile late game targets like elefant or king tigers with a price of a lot of munitions, 240. But they still could escape, which is ok.
But after nerfs, they didn't really need to escape, because rockets will miss 50% of times.
Oh and if you are OKW, you don't really need to bother because they will die in 3 seconds.

But P47 is (was) some of the uniques tools that USF have to stay in the late game.
You are right, USF should be weak with Tanks but at least powerful with air superiority and indirect fire. (Indirect fire is not bad)
Ostheers have a lot of good units in the late game and still have a better and cheaper Air support. This is not balance.
Stuka close air support comes with Tiger, cmon.