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Jump back to quoted post2 Jul 2019, 17:15 PMelchino7

1- This was still on Relic old balance team and you are miss informing people when you mention the era when ISG/Howie was given suppression on both, AA and barrage.
This was still pre-rework OKW btw (so no MG34).

The intention was fixing "blobbing". AA was not reduced and was one of the reasons the ISG was one of the most obnoxious units to be created by Relic.

2- Artillery units demolishing structures and static defenses... With the exception of OKW base buildings, if a single one of them proves to be too effective against them, that can be easily adjusted with decreased damage modifiers against it. Scatter and FoW penaltie are other ways to adjust it as well.

3- Is the unit really design around AA? It unlocks WP barrage. It unlocks Heat shells barrage. It always had a smaller AA range compared to barrage. Yes, with the small amount of shells it fired on barrage, it would be nigh impossible to vet the unit. That's why i always said they should improve barrage and nerf/remove AA. Even more so that they added a mortar to the roster.

4- If the unit had 120mm mortar values in AA, then the unit wouldn't be good against mobile units. It has stronger scatter and reload values which makes it deadly by comparison. The whole point is that ALL mortar units had been nerf so they are weaker against mobile units nowadays.

If you take a look at the changelog, the unit received certain buffs which might had not been warranted considered the power level at which indirect fire was brought up to.



If coh2db stats are up to date:
-AA RoF:
Howie: 9.94s
120mm: 14.15
OH 81mm: 10.81s

-Scatter (Angle/Distance Ratio/Distance offset)
Howie: 6/0.1/8
120mm: 10/0.1/10
82mm: 10/0.08/8

-AoE (Radius, Distance near, Mid, Far)
Howie: 5, 1.5 (68dmg), 3 (40), 4.5 (20)
120mm: 6, 1.5, 3, 4.5
82mm: 4, 1, 2, 3

Let me explain and add some bits. The most important value is the distance near(1.5). All indirect fire were made so they can be less wipe in full health models, so unless a straight direct hit, they are not doing lethal dmg anymore to 80HP models.

While the value difference might be small, let's remember that it's the radius and any incremental is practically double the area.

Also, for some reason, the 120mm barrage is less lethal than the AA (1.1/3.5/4.5)

Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2019, 23:25 PMShadowLinkX37

So is OKW and UKF. OKWs only indirect is locked behind a subpar tech structure (for 1v1) and UKF don't even get mobile indirect. USF at least have got a t0 mortar and just had a tech rework.

Jump back to quoted post1 Jul 2019, 19:59 PMShadowLinkX37

pretty sure it comes at roughly the same time as the LeIG but the LeIG is garbage by comparison. Either nerf the pak howitzer because of

what blvck said, and/or change the price accordingly. Every other indirect fire piece was changed to not 1 shot squads anymore because it was frustrating and incredibly unfair, the pak howitzer is the only indirect outside of rocket arty and heavy/self propelled arty to 1 shot.

dumping 700MP into indirect isn't a lot when it wins you games. People used to build 3-4 USF mortars when they were laser guided and you couldn't just #adapt or smoke-and-flank. Same concept here. Is it impossible to flank them? no. But try flanking and killing 2x pak howis on faymonville where the map is so thin you can practically shoot from base to base with the barrage.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jun 2019, 22:18 PMthedarkarmadillo

First off, give the 50 another go, fantastic MG, arguably the best (as it should for price) same with the pak howi mate. Absolutely a monster (especially once vetted)

If the unit is supposed to be behind lines and defensive anyways then there is no reason for it to have enough health to brawl (as in effectively defend itself against a dive, which no other 60 range TD can. A microd medium will end all other 60 range TDs but the Jackson has the mobility and turret to react but also the health to survive.

I don't want the uniy gutted, but it does need toned down