That's just more noob friendly, this is why the majority of noobish Axis players are asking for it. In a fight average/good players already always stop before firing. Microing a sherman or panther that's the same principle, you do not want to jeopardize your dps with a 75% or 65% chance to hit.
Sometime I hope Coh3 brings reverse change on this matter, papermade Pz4 that have 75% chance to hit on the move and armored sherman with 65%, and see the same people coming here as crybabies because their tank don't pen enough..
Dude i am in your side i know when i play axis and soviets i always stop my tanks when they are about to fire but they might dont know |
allie tank could have 0 armor...if the p4/ panther cant hit anything on the move..than the opponent armor is irrelevant
you dont need armor, when you cant hit..
dude USF has only that ability to not miss in the move which is preatty good but shemrans cant pen a lot of tiems stugs and p4 and stugs has 140 armor PLUS all the other factions have the same penalty on the move so yeah not big problem and USF doesnt even ahve htat storng tnaks only jackson spam in the late game but i always get rifle company so i could use useful shermans |
As you can see the pz4 is really only good if you have two of them or if it is supported by stugs/paks. Seeing as the pz4 feels so meh for what I am paying I normally only get it if I'm not sure if the enemy is about to field some armor himself. If I'm sure he isn't I would much rather go ostwind or if I'm sure I'm lagging behind in tech/map control I much rather go for a stug.
I would also choose a cromwell over a pz4 for the reasons already said plus that the cromwell has smoke shells as well as the emergency war speed and can even get vehicle tracking...
and p4 has OP vet for exable vet 2 with armored skirts that a cromwell and sherman will have really hard time penetrating it and p4 has enought armor at vet 0 180 armor and cromwell with shemran have 160 even comet cant sometimes pen p4 armor |
PzIV is not better than Cromwell in every way.
Cromwell has far superior mobility.
The tank commander give it the unit better accuracy and better sight.
The penetration of the PzIV is only better at max range and Cromwell has better penetration closer.
Cromwell 135/120/105
PzIV 125/115/110
I would personally choose the Cromwell over the PzIV in most cases.
Yes but p4 has more armor 180 cromwell 160 |
Thread: Comet1 Feb 2018, 10:28 AM
I know right? When are the brits going to get a dedicated unit to fight panthers and other heavies?
Also its great against anything below a panther (great armour, great pen, longer range) and its good against infantry too. Cant have it all at once contrary to its previous "no limit non doc pershing+" design capable of beating a panther in a slugfest 40% of the time but also more mobile and with better modifiers and the ability to fight infantry and the ability to click 2 times and kill any weapon team including AT guns who its WP outranged cause reasons... You do know that comets can be spamable get 3 of them while pershing costs like a tiger and can be called only ONE TIME CUZ ITS A HEAVY TANK |
how can be grens op when there are IS with double vickers, 5model terminator squads in game?
and dont tell me the brit mg is weak....its must be buffed since last patch, it supress mostly instantly few squads...and make more dmg than mg42
Dude dont think of british only personalyl i hate british they are insanly OP i am a USF player but dont think only british if 5 men squad pop cap reduced and manpower reduced PLUS 5 men squad in grenadiers then riflemen would have no chance |
I find it super funny how infantry sections start with 4 models and come on top in a 1v1 with a gren most of the time (better base squad) and they then can upgrade to 5 man squads and then get double weapon upgrade and they are cheaper to reinforce (28 manpower) than grens are (30 manpower). Not to mention that after the early game you will lose every engagement versus IS unless you blob or have your infantry in heavy cover with sniper support...
and how did your p4 got buffed its pen and fuel reduced and its same price as cromwell and its better in every way its MG its pen vs tanks and vs infantry and cost the same |
Honestly id like to see them get a 5th man but also a cost increase ofc. You i am watting for that video you told me USF oP MORE OP op op op please put video i am dying i am watching your chanel and you havent uploaded |
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this will be too OP if they take 5 men squad i would decrease the accurance and their rifles damage Plus more popcap and manpower |
It's the same cost as an OKW p4. It's entirely reasonable that it's best at fighting mediums, since it is already very decent against infantry. Also, Volks have had snares since forever - about 2 years at least?
And in fact Volks with shreks were WAY worse anyway. Which era are you from man?
Sherman + Jackson is gonna cost you about 800 mp and 250 fuel.
Basically you have a preference for specialist units and don't understand what generalist tanks are for - that doesn't make the EZ8 a bad tank.
A HE Sherman is great at harassing infantry but has to run from an OKW P4 or a Stug - the EZ8 is not as good vs infantry but can still perform the same role while easily beating an OKW P4 or a Stug.
A Jackson is better AT, but if your opponent's armour is afk/not out yet/being repaired/somewhere else, your Jackson sits around and does nothing. The EZ8 is always able to contribute, no matter what the situation.
The whole point of generalist tanks is that they are very decent at all things, and not meant to be overpowering in any one category. A 140 fuel EZ8 losing to a Panther doesn't make the EZ8 a bad tank, it makes you a bad player for choosing poor engagements and expecting a 140 fuel tank to kill a premium tank.
To be honest E8 for its price is awesome 140 fuel and is better killing infrantry and on the move and has faster relaod time and can take as many hits like panther and E8 has some chances 1v1 panther |
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