Profile of LoopDloop

Id like three upgrade options
STGs and taacasault 80 muni
MP40s and commandos like stealth 80 muni
Szchreks and commandos like stealth 100 muni

+1.

I think 2 schrecks and commando stealth would be too much though. I think 1 with camouflage damage bonuses like the paratrooper support squads have for like 60 muni would be better, simply because they'd do way too much damage out of ambushes with commando camo to be effectively countered (mainly the problem would be if they have like 2 squads we could have the old pre-speed nerf double raketen type situation were they just sneak around and find tanks and kill them in 2 volleys).

Problem with Rear Echelon in the early stages is that Volley Fire only works if you are ignored or facing Ostheer Pioneers; the unit will die in most cases or be combat ineffective. Get into late game, the squad will disintegrate if they push the button and your better off just shooting with LMGs to BARs. Volley-Fire either needs to not have a RA penalty given it needs time to even ramp up, lower RA and faster ramp up time, or be changed so that let's say, enemy units under Volley Fire have their accuracy reduced by like 20-25% and are slowed to walking speed. The latter would mean Rear Echelon could support Riflemen and allow them to close the distance. What penalties the Rear Echelon would get could either be received accuracy or they need to keep the ability channeled or the debuff breaks.

Furthermore, their damage is very inconsistent. Yes, they deal 10 damage per shot, unlike an M1 Garands 8, but your accuracy is only 0.403/0.288/0.23. The moment anyone steps into cover, say goodbye to your to hit anyone. I'd rather their damage get dropped and they could actually hit people or they could shoot slower, but for higher accuracy. Of course, this does mean they no longer are good counters vs the Kubel, but maybe just adjusting their moving stats.

Also, it would be nice if USF can destroy their Fighting Position and get a full or partial refund; would help Rear Echelon to 'bunny-hop' and get more usage of their rifle grenades.

After that, maybe reduce cost or just their reinforcement cost and then that's a decent alternative to Riflemen and you'd have a reason to build more to support Rifles outside of mass RE strats.

+1

What if the valentine’s stats were changed so it was more of a dedicated anti infantry vehicle to complement the AEC sort of like the luchs and puma? Because right now, it just seems like a worse version of the aec that comes later than it, and making it do 40 more damage won’t change that a ton because of its weird veterancy bonuses. I guess my point is that it is overshadowed by the AEC due to too much overlap.

Command Panther to Breakthrough. Strongest call-in to weakest doctrine.
Sturmtiger to Special Operations. Weakest call-in to strongest doctrine.
Jadgtiger to Elite Armored. The Panzer Commander on another tank can spot for it, and HEAT is HEAT.

Wait HEAT on the jt? Talk about overkill lol.

Actually it’d be kind of op cuz then it could 2 hit mediums again.

That would mean that USF crew will have a very high probability to be vet 3 since they would have a very low chance to die.

Player will also be stack with a number of crews that disembark from the new vehicles for the vetted crews to use.
(imo one should move the repair critical ability to assault engineer and replace the vet 1 ability with one that allows either to be refitted and be removed from the map or to be "promote" to another unit like R.E.
Or another mechanism could be introduced to unwanted units from the map)


Although I have suggested a similar idea this can only work if the crew loses some of it veterancy (50-75%) in the process.

some other ideas:
Crew can upgrade with 2 Thompson for 10 mu?

For an amount of manpower/fuel crews can now gain a 4 vet bonus that gives them utility

Yeah having them lose some vet might make sense. Keep in mind that 2 guys with like 1.25 RA (a little less win vet3) have a pretty high chance to get wiped by the time tanks come out.

Having some sort of “withdraw” option for vehicle crews could also make sense, and would help mechanized company too I guess.

Like I said in OP, the fundamental problem with Thompson vehicle crews is that they just don’t have the RA to pull it off. Having only two Thompsons (while being significantly cheaper) would only compound that problem. Imagine walking an mg or mortar crew up to an infantry squad and having them sit point blank for a few seconds. Doesn’t work very well, and adding dps (even a ton of dps) wouldn’t really change much in that scenario; maybe they’d drop like 1-2 models before having to retreat depending on the squad. That’s the main reason I suggested the bailing out thing, as they really just aren’t at all cost efficient in any role except being inside tanks as normal usf vehicle crews operate, but if you put them inside tanks, then it’s not really worth getting the upgrade since they’re likely to die in the tank (especially if the tank in question is an M10) at some point, which is an awful lot of munitions to lose for slightly faster repair speed and vet gain IMO.