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On teamgame maps, "attracting" a bunch of ATGs usually attracts a bunch of werfers and stukas right back at you. It's definetely not a no brainer ability but there should have been some sort of delay when going OUT OF hulldown (a couple of seconds). The biggest downside is maybe forgetting that your tank is in hulldown and then getting it killed when you think that you moved it. On all hulldowns (allied and axis) there should have been a delay for going out of hulldown. Hulldown bonuses should be about reinforcing weaknesses (range on axis and armour or something on allies) but you shouldn't be able to immediately exit hulldown

i second this. there should be a delay when exiting hulldowns as trade-off. certainly not overly long as that of the kv-2's alt fire mode, but at least 0.5 - 1 sec would imho be justified

From my experience from COH1 I can say that giving all units deflection damage it would be a bad change.

Have you even seen or used Tetrarch spam? When units like that get a critical mass they simply overrun everything.

One could give specific units or specific abilities to unit that provided deflection damage but that should be limited.

Yep, I was there when Tetrarch spam was a thing and I shamefully admit to having lost the occasional KT to an M8 as well back in the day. I think no one here disagrees that stuff like this shouldn't have a place in CoH2. However, I'd also wager that it pretty much depends on how and for which units deflection damage gets implemented to prevent scenarios like that from happening again.
LVs, for example, wouldn't need to deal DD at all. This could be restricted to mediums or above where the spam potential is already comparatively limited due to popcap. Also, having a deflection damage multiplier of 0.5, as it is now for most (relevant) units in CoH2 that still have it, would clearly be excessive and could be dialed down to maybe 25% at most. Of course this might also mean that most of the armor/pen values would need an overhaul as well in order to keep the relative power levels of the affected tanks roughly the same. A whole lot of work for sure, but I'm pretty convinced this would both be possible as well as have some benefit - if implemented properly. If it would be worth the time that late in CoH2's life cycle is another story of course.

I acually like the idea of making the armor-pen system a bit less binary by introducing deflection damage as Hannibal and others suggested. Of course the exact value would have to be chosen wisely in order for the game not to become too arcadey, but sth like 1/8 to 1/4 of the regular damage on penetration could be reasonable. Not only would this reduce the reliance on high-pen AT vs heavily armored tanks somewhat and keep mediums relevant in later stages of the game, but it could also kind of break up the rigid HP tiering a bit. Especially the latter would be interesting as it would give other AT options that don't operate by the 80/160 dmg formula, such as some hand-held AT and snares, a bit more room to shine.
Obviously, such a radical redesign is pretty much out of the question for CoH2, but it might be an option worth considering for the sequel nontheless.

but this topic is about Path + Scott. So yeah, path + scott already in game for tooooooo long. But now peole complain it OP ?

actually, this topic is about the jp4. just sayin'...

Hmm, interesting. I agree the impact this could have on infantry combat is probably rather minor except for few fringe cases (iirc tactical advance can result in >1 chance to hit before moving accuracy penalties?).