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Thread: allow 7 man Conscripts PPSH41 or PTRS25 Sep 2019, 11:49 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 11:42 AMflyingpancake LOL no unlike the other mainline upgrades the PPSH have severe tactical downsides that do not really synergies well with the unit holding them unlike the others Grenadier MG42: unit focused on long range so the slight inconvenience of not being able to fire the MG42 on the move is not that big of a deal since you are supposed to keep at range anyway. Section Bren: see Grenadier Volksgrenadier MP44: mid to short range damage increase that is useful in all engagements Bar Rifles: see Volksgrenadier Conscripts: Increase short range fire power (and I mean stepping on toes short) in place for mid to long range fire power on a unit that dies fast and has no smoke. So no, switching 7th man for PPSH would not be OP as they stand now. i guess u never uses ppsh cons with sprint? they close the distance with losing mostly one model. after this they shred all above other units u mentioned. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: allow 7 man Conscripts PPSH41 or PTRS25 Sep 2019, 11:34 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 11:32 AMflyingpancake I think stormjager meant it like mutually exclusive. swapping the PPSH in docterines for 7th man and making them mutually exclusive like they are now since the 7th man is clearly better and russians used fuck tons of PPSH in the war so it has some historical basis. even with 6models it would be too good nondoc In: COH2 Balance
Thread: allow 7 man Conscripts PPSH41 or PTRS25 Sep 2019, 11:29 AM lets resume: - 6(7) models - 240mp - t0 - sprint - merge - sandbags - upgradeable with flame nades and at nades - now with ppsh nondoc (pgrens dps) yeah..why not...lol it is like give all advantages without any disadvantages to one unit. u can have cheap price, good dps, good survive/ abiltys choose two. NOT THREE. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: allow 7 man Conscripts PPSH41 or PTRS25 Sep 2019, 11:24 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 11:18 AMT.R. Stormjäger Not sure if it's relevant, but with the amount of PPSH submachine guns used in rifle divisions in 1944-1945, you'd think the conscript assault package would be a stock upgrade, especially considering STGs are stock for OKW. not sure why a 7model 240mp squad should have the close dps from pgrens which cost 100mp more and have only 4models. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: allow 7 man Conscripts PPSH41 or PTRS25 Sep 2019, 09:03 AM it seems some guys here know only the Performance from cons patches ago. Today they arent useless and perform ok for their price, surviveabilty, Abilitys and tool. And in the sov faction as it is now. what do u want? Grens, IS or rifles dps? 0.8 model size? seriously? for the cheapest mainline with 6(7) models with the highest Ability set....than make the price around 300. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Rifles overperforming?25 Sep 2019, 06:04 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2019, 03:27 AMCODGUY They wipe Riflemen easy with the easy to get MG42 upgrade ah...and i though rifles (ad all other USF squads) have Access to upgrades too...sorry..my mistake. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: allow 7 man Conscripts PPSH41 or PTRS24 Sep 2019, 06:09 AM Jump back to quoted post23 Sep 2019, 20:38 PMKatitof Someone has never seen a good axis player, who is able to inflict attrition to ppsh cons without getting a single model loss over time, works on 1v1 squad and blob vs blob basis. Not saying ppsh cons aren't good, they sure are fine, but you aren't exactly authority in how to play the game. Ah. The Ober-Troll (coh joke). And let my guess..you are the authority to say how to play this game, right? Let me look your actual rank...oh..wait... Back to topic: cons with ppsh are really great (u should play this game..) and wipe the floor with mostly every axis squad, when use right (not running frontally into a MG like a brain-damaged) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: allow 7 man Conscripts PPSH41 or PTRS23 Sep 2019, 13:29 PM Someone never seen a good use of cons with ppsh...which push back almost every axis infantry easily. for such a low price with such many abilitys and usefully tools... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Fallschirmjäger is very OP!22 Sep 2019, 19:01 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Sep 2019, 13:35 PMKatitof Does that mean will you now shut up about guards and shocks? if u would read my post you would see: i said it several times: fallies do exactly (sometime even less) like all other AI specialists: schredd normals squad..exspacily when u blobb them up. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Fallschirmjäger is very OP!22 Sep 2019, 11:29 AM Jump back to quoted post22 Sep 2019, 10:47 AMAlphrum Falls beating squads that cost less = OP needs nerf Paras beating squads that cost less = Fine, supposed to Take your bias glasses off lol..exactly this OP and other whiners... wah..my cheaper nondoc squad get shredd by 3 more expansive doc AI specialist fallies ....MUST BE NERF! same ppls: its ok that paras shred fallies with 4 models left..because they are more expansive... so lol In: COH2 Balance