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Thread: USF Doctrinal T0 units and alternatives to Riflemen.28 Feb 2020, 16:55 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2020, 12:09 PMJibberJabberJobber If you can't deal with Kubel as UKF, you'Il have 0 cp Assault Sections as an option next patch, which will kill it in about 3 seconds, just as Assault Engineers do currently UKF's the last faction that'd have trouble with the Kubel. It's got the Universal Carrier. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: How to reducing USF's reliance on Jackson28 Feb 2020, 16:52 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2020, 16:36 PMVipper 1) M36 is being OP for 3 years now... 2) If one want to stick with a "sniper" design why has to simply apply similar logic with "sniper": Reduce mobility since a sniper is not faster than infatry Use an inverted DPS profile similar to sniper DPS profile reducing ROF (or even accuracy and penetration) so that unit is an disadvantage when in close range 3) But there is little reason to use a "sniper" design since the part of the problem is that in the current implementation the unit has the mobility to stay at max range and little reason to move closer since its DPS is very high at max range and improves very little at closer range. The Jackson performs like I'd expect a dedicated tank destroyer to at long range. I've got no complaints there. The problem is the Jackson also has solid performance close up, which constitutes a big increase to its 1v1 power. Fireflies and SU-85s need to play much more defensively because even a Panzer IV can kill them if it gets a good angle on them. The Jackson's fast rotation and solid rate of fire let it brawl with mediums on even terms, allowing it to play much more aggressively. You can dive into a base to secure a kill with a Jackson. That'd be madness with an SU-85 or Firefly. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: How to reducing USF's reliance on Jackson28 Feb 2020, 16:01 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2020, 15:53 PMVipper You can not simply NOT make a sniper tank and lower its long range performance so that is does not get a chance to hit and penetrate everything at at range 60 with a nearly 100% chance. Making the Jackson a sniper tank is easy. You just have to change it such that it has to use its range advantage to win battles. See the Firefly and SU-85 for good examples of how to do that. The hard part is doing that in a way that doesn't have far reaching and unpredictable consequen It's a keystone unit for USF and any changes to it will have huge repercussions. It's understandable why the balance team is so hesitant to change it when each patch might be the last. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Sturmpioneer schreck still costs 70 muni28 Feb 2020, 15:57 PM Jump back to quoted post25 Feb 2020, 08:31 AMSeductiveCardbordBox You can't make it nearly as cheap as a zook or a piat. C'mon now. That said, both they and stormtroopers should have a better weapon profile with the zook so long as they are limited to one. Sure you can. As it stands, the Sturmpioneer Panzershreck has such a huge opportunity cost in return for such lackluster AT that I reckon you could even make it free. The true value of slot weapons is contextual: it depends on the unit you're giving it to. Ostheer's double Panzershreck package is only 100 MU, but that'd be way too cheap if you gave it to Pios. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: How to reducing USF's reliance on Jackson28 Feb 2020, 15:51 PM The USF Sherman really doesn't need better AT. It's already the best medium tank in the game. The reason the Jackson struggles to coexist with the premium AT Shermans (M4C and Easy Eight) is because the Jackson is good at close range: it's got maneuverability, moving accuracy, a decent rate of fire and a turret. You can use it as a sniper and a brawler, so it occupies a lot of design space. If you want it to be a sniper tank like the Firefly and SU-85 (therefore making more design space for the E8 and M4C) you need to somehow cripple it at close range. The hard part is how. » If you put it back down to 480 health, then it gets two-tapped by the Elefant. » If you take away its maneuverability, then it's not really the Jackson any more. » If you cut its rate of fire, you make it vulnerable to being out DPSed at close range but also make it worse in a long range fight. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: USF Doctrinal T0 units and alternatives to Riflemen.27 Feb 2020, 16:03 PM Between the USF tech rework and the Riflemen buff, USF did just build two and play Assault Engineers, Cav Rifles and Pathfinders instead. You still can, that's the reason for the USF tech rework. However, as specialised units, you need to adapt your playstyle to fit them. Buffed Riflemen are solid generalists, so completely replacing them with Assault Engineers is a less popular strategy than it was. The doctrinal squads aren't bad, it's just that the nondoctrinal ones are good now. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: To the patch team27 Feb 2020, 00:14 AM Ostheer's pretty strong in teamgames, but it struggles in 1v1 because of its limited tools in the light vehicle phase. If it could get some sort of AT response out sooner, it'd have an easier time. Perhaps a casemate tank destroyer? That way, you'd have positional interplay with light vehicles that can circle-strafe it. Like a... ...StuG? shameless plugging intensifies https://www.coh2.org/topic/103763/ostheer-tech-restructure In: COH2 Balance
Thread: A redesign of Sherman26 Feb 2020, 18:26 PM What's wrong with the current Sherman? The problem unit in the USF lineup is the Jackson. The Sherman's a well-implemented medium. In: Lobby
Thread: Additional 10% armor bonus for panther at vet326 Feb 2020, 13:09 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 12:54 PMJibberJabberJobber He's been trolling since preview 1.2. But it's just what he was saying before with the factions flipped... In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Additional 10% armor bonus for panther at vet326 Feb 2020, 12:21 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2020, 06:36 AMmrgame2 Panther is almost a doctrine Pershing with a bit lesser AI for longer range. "a bit lesser AI"? You're comparing one of the most powerful anti-infantry guns in the game to the Panther's gun, which has worse AoE than a stock medium tank. In: COH2 Gameplay