Profile of Widerstreit

Hello, Ostheer and Oberkommando-West have many simularities. Well, they are both about german-forces, so they have to use similar units-types. There are also some tries to make more varieties, like MG42/MG34 or PnzIV without/with skirts. But since OKW arrived with a stock King-Tiger and Panthers I wonder:

Why not give Ostheer Tigers instead of Panthers in T4? Simple give a max. limit for two Tigers at same time.

I didn't tested it, but I think it would fit better for Ostheer.
Tiger is more expensive, slower and more vulnerable to tank-hunters, but can be a key for many situations. It also needs more population, so you have to weight the odds.

(The only problem could be in 3vs3 and 4vs4, but two Tigers need as population as 3 Panthers, so?).

Panther could be avaiable in old Tiger-commanders as:

- One special call-in tank-hunter, limited to only one unit at same time with 60 range.

- Or like T34/85, as extra in T4. (maybe replaces Tiger)



Also Tiger-Ace could be changed with a King-Tiger (blocks Tiger I in T4 is chosen - If you have a Tiger 1 on field you can't call in King-Tiger, if King-Tiger is on field you can't build a Tiger 1)



Before you start hating, it is mainly about the blue-print. A nerf/buff for the Tiger is also a Option. What do you think about? Would it make Ostheer more authentic?

Sure, it was devastating, but a player should also use sweepers to guide his blobs either way

I only say Ostheer-S-Mines with it's shields… xDD

Demo is fine as it is now. Put it behind buildings, or simply destroy OKW base with it.




Soviets don't need more tools do handle Blobbs, stock T34/76 is one of best infantry killer ingame. Even its machine-gun is op as hell, doing as damage as all 3* Mg34 of Panzer 4 with update.

I think you all don't get my point: Form me all MGs arn't a trouble, even Vickers, I can deal with that. But what I see is, if I get a Vickers into my Hands (or all other mates I know) Alliis are done.

I mostly play as Osttruppen, well Vickers is killing them fast because it seems Vickers ignores cover, but in German hands Vickers become op as hell. Osttruppen hold the line, Vickers rapes.

I don't see the point of the Vickers. Tommies are accurate, get cover-bonus and with some mun two Brens and the little op miles-bomb. Bren-Carrier can upgrade with extra MG which deal a lot of damage too... don't forget early Centaur or Bofors. Why does the Vickers deal so much damage then?

Edit: The hole game is copy and paste… where is the troble? Take things that works and optimize them.

Don't ask me why I want to kill enemy with MG instead of suppress, ask the Vickers.

Range 5 is the effective range of Ostheer Pios, that is why it counts. Also Ostheer has no close range abilies until Pnzgrns.

Brits get the option for double Bren, Bren carrier and Bofors (which is also op because it should have stats of OKW t3) so Vickers need stats of MG34 with its +5 range and passive pin boost. Tommyies have enouth DPS.

Because it makes way to much damage versus garrisons and units in cover, that is why it is so op. For me that counts more than insta pin, it is easy to get 30 kills with a Vickers.