Profile of Longshot_Cobra

This is ridiculous, cons are too weak to not get replaced by guards as a mainline infantry.

Defensive or not, a guard unit shouldn't struggle to destroy Grens or volks.

I'm sure the next patch will introduce some Penals into guards meta that people will cry non-stop about.

No no, you're missing the point, come on are you doing it on purpose?

I didn't say they should be able to kill it on sight.
Just that it should be possible for them to "kill it".

Right now to lights, the damage they deal is ridiculously low and slow.

A luchs can at the very least resist, but a fucking 222? Come the fuck on.

The point I'm trying to make her is that it should be strong enough to scare him and think better about his approach.


The button isn't strong anymore, stop talking about it as if it could really get some use and slow down tanks, it doesn't anymore, unless you can seriously get close to the tank and use it, it can still shoot you now, so use it and get hit hard.

As long as they are not as good as panzergrenadiers, they will never be good.

Then it wasn't in cover, because I've seen squads in cover get wiped by RGD-33s constantly.

Maybe I got it wrong for their grenades, but it still doesn't do enough damage on garisoned.

Alright so lets go through the list.

-They come in about the same time as a luchs. Hardly late.

They come after or just at the same time, it's hard to micro all the important units and get a guards at that rate.
Again why wouldn't I simply keep spamming cons+maxim and a AT gun instead of using a 330mp unit that can't take down luchs alone?

-They do cost alot to reinforce. This is why they are fantastic candidates for merge.

Merging = 3/4 of your squad are cons.
It means you use guards with cons units in them, and remember they don't get their PTRS or DP28 back once they lose it.
So what do you merge for? for nothing.

-Their DPS with the LMG upgrade is higher than a grenadier squad. They are not meant to engage infantry head on in the same way grens are either.

a 330mp squad needs a 75mu ammo to be better than regular mainline infantry?
Good point.
If they are not made to engage infantry, what are they made for? They can't even kill a puma.

-Button is a light snare THAT DOES NOT NEED TO PENETRATE to be effective. A KT is buttoned as easily as a Kuble. This is where it shines.

With that alone I know you have no idea what you're talking about.
Button hardly snares the tank, it's so easy to evade, it doesn't deactivate turret anymore and it lasts nothing.
It costs more than panzerschreks to use it and everyone agrees it's useless.

-Their grenades are top tier in terms of AOE and damage. They aren't supposed to wipe an entire MG team. That's dumb.

Why is a top tier in terms of AOE dealing less damage than a 30mu grenade from USF or the same grenade thrown by shocks?
It makes no sense.

-They aren't supposed to solo a luchs

Yes they are, what's their use otherwise?

-Against garrisoned units it depends entirely on where they are in the garrison and what they're in. A badly aimed USF nade will suck as much as a badly aimed guard-nade.

Actually no, the last patch buffs the shocks grenades to do this.
Why not guards?

I forgot the biggest problem: they are literal piñatas , always dropping free stuff for the enemy.

Use them with penals and cons. Merge the cons.
Don't spam them and expect them to do much

Then what's the point? I'd rather buy an AT and keep spamming cons with AT nade and in best case a PPsh upgrade.

No really, guards are useless as they are now.
At least the button has some use before, but now what do you use it for?

He is right.
How exactly can you explain that Penals are any better than mainline infantry?