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Thread: Major Unbalancing21 Dec 2018, 21:01 PM okw has at soo early cause the pazer faust comes after u set up a truck that cost 40 at minimum but the u add that okw start with 5 fuel instead of 20 so its 55 fuel, while other can get it at max 30 fuel (apart from usf that gets at nades from vet) i don't understand why u say panzer faust comes early maybe u meant rakt ? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: can we now fix soviet T2 please?21 Dec 2018, 20:53 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2018, 20:46 PMthedarkarmadillo I read it. But the rak can retreat (I'm fine with this mechanic) and is rather cheap so as long as it can creep its worth the risk to kill something like a Katy. Imo it needs to be toggle camo but have an ambush bonus, ROF or accuracy or even damage Say it gets to deal 200 damage out of ambush:this means getting it earlier allows the player to, in a properly thought out ambush, counter enemy transports reducing the threat of marauding transports IF PLANNED AHEAD. All that I want from this game is some strategic planning and less "easy" decisions like upgrading volks or penals or risking 270mp to kill 360mp and 85fu Camo should be defensive not offensive. Wehr ambush camo has it right. Sniper camo even has it right rak does not and will not as long as it can possibly hunt for so cheap again i said COPY THE V COH PAK 38 it had same pen as usf one without the pen rounds but with almost stationary stealth but with fist strike bonus, thats it In: COH2 Balance
Thread: can we now fix soviet T2 please?21 Dec 2018, 20:50 PM ok , first u say i take 2 p4 vs 3 t34 then u magically add a vloks squad, if u calcualte it with other untis it all goes to shit as i can say well 1 tank vs 3 tank the 1 tank win cause u have 4 at gun behind him, 3 t 34 are btter than 2 p 4 in a vacum cause that's the only way u can calculate them , if u count them in context there are too many variable just so u know there is no side armor only rear( the tank are 50%50 rear and front armor), a t 34 has 100% chance to pen the rear armor of the p 4 and around 50 chance from the front while the p 4 has around 75% to pen the t 34/76 form the front wither u got unlucky or u didn't test while stationary(u were prob moving only the soviet tank and got the accuracy debuff) again u did not count the starting fuel like a said for okw it's optional to get LV they CAN skip it, while soviet are mandaory but cheaper (count cost from tier 1 to tier 3 of okw and cost of tier 1/2 to tier 4 for soviet) its the same reason why axis doesn't get optional upgrade they are mandatory but a bit cheaper with less freedom btw Molotov are not 15 from long time, when was the last time u played soviet ? by ur logic usf gets 1 2 free squad with thompson out of the stock, 1 free recon , 1 fake falre, 1 of map art, 1 free bar tech, 1 free zook tech,free retreat point, brits gets free art in map when they tech and soviet get free merge on cons, free hurra, free 6 man support weapons, news flash EVERY FACTION pays in some way what they have be more teching cost, side grade, lower performance of the units, missing unit type, etc, if u want u can count unit in a vacuum when they are base but then u can't be picky for what they get after (we only count upgrades not vet, 6 man squads is a feature while axis get thing for free reeee, "well i mean the 25 pounder are shit so they don't count gough*" etc) u either count every advantage a unit has by being in the factions or none, not only what is convenient for u In: COH2 Balance
Thread: can we now fix soviet T2 please?21 Dec 2018, 19:23 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2018, 19:21 PMthedarkarmadillo The tank stealth that makes the tank stationary and dressed like a bush? Or the AT camo that literally crawls? Super comparable moving while invisible and zippy rak cheese. 100% A1. could u at least read what i wrote i just said to copy the 10% move speed of v coh In: COH2 Balance
Thread: So people are still okay with Sturmpios?21 Dec 2018, 19:20 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2018, 18:24 PMgbem havent tested it yet... but long range green on green engagements at the end of the viewrange has ended with volksgrenadier victory when ive played... will conduct more thorough testing soontm dude it's math just look at the cruzz google doc, it's on mr smith profile is u want edit: ehere for u https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7gwy65JLbSRMEJ3M2ZPandMMW8 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: can we now fix soviet T2 please?21 Dec 2018, 19:18 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2018, 19:12 PMgbem add a "stealth only while in cover" then im fine... romulan cloaking devices on all terrain is simply ridiculous... its like im james T kirk fighting the romulan warbird in the balance of terror... but a romulan warbird that doesnt have any detectable exhaust or weaknesses to its cloak i wonder how can u tolerate the soviet stealth tank and at guns if so In: COH2 Balance
Thread: can we now fix soviet T2 please?21 Dec 2018, 19:17 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2018, 18:10 PMgbem no... just no... 2x P4s will win and trade consistently and efficiently vs 3x T-34s if the user has half a brain cell... if you think otherwise then lets nerf the OKW P4 to T-34 levels and buff the T-34 to OKW P4 levels for a patch and see axis players wont cry... this is a pathetic attempt to justify bias... mmkay noted... didnt see this a few patches ago... as i said OKW T1 = SOV T2 OKW T2 = sov T3... sov T1 is a different issue and is actually a viable playstyle due to the m3 and the penal battalion... btw that thread did confirm that sov paid more for teching not less... okw can still get to T4 earlier than sov... 235 vs 190/195 to T4 T2 + at nade + T3 + T4 + molly vs (T2 + medics)/T3 + T4 and without ~~optionals~~ side techs? 195 vs 165/195 to T4 OKW pays less or the same for teching period... they simply get free stuff without the optionals soo quit the bullshit mind you OKW starts with the highest manpower start ingame 340 base + 300MP sturmpioneer... 640 mp starting(!!!) the next best is UKF and ost 340 + 280 IS/420 + 200 pioneer... 620 MP starting... sov is the worst 390 + 170... 560 mp starting... but since you want to cherrypick data then fine 175 vs 160/190 to T4 OKW going T1 still techs cheaper to T4 than sov T2... as if AT grenades are optional... AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA... ok fuck it lets lock the panzerfaust on a 25 fuel sidetech and the incendiary nade for a 15 fuel sidetech for a patch and see if you dont complain... this is bullshit as proven by the above post no 3 t 34 76 can easily beat 2 p 4 if u have brain as 1 can flank while the other face off the p 4, for me u can swap the t 34 for the okw p4 3 seconds latter people will whine about okw rushing t 34 and then having the panther too i bet my as on it okw can get tier faster if he forgoes LV while soviet can get it or to put it better "what ? why soviet get free light veichele tech when they go for tier 4 that's unfair i have to chose tech for a cheaper price and can't get both why does he get it for free" (if u did not get it it's the same for no optional tech increased teching cost) they have the most expensive thech tree period if u want to rush (spoiler it's not viable) oster can reach tier 4 without building any other structure "i mean u dont need at nades u have mines arguably they are better than at nades" if u still dont get the point medics are mandatory too obv it's more cheap u are skipping a tech okw don't have a tier 4 they have just 3 tier if u go one u give up something btw u can get t 34 faster than a p4 even if okw rush while soviet can even get full tech and still get t 34 sooner thanks to the bonus starting fuel u can remove them when medic are free of fuel and there is no tech cost for first truck and they start with 20 fuel it's not bull shit just cause u don't like it, math is math okw going from tier 1 to tier 3 cost way more than soviet going from tier 1 to tier 4 with or without optional, if u rush u lose the ability to build either light vehicle or medics+mortar(leig)+AA half truck In: COH2 Balance
Thread: can we now fix soviet T2 please?21 Dec 2018, 19:02 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2018, 18:37 PMgbem stealth AT guns are simply cheesy as of the current meta... the "sneak the AT gun to kill muh ambulance katyusha or repairing tank and retreat" meta has to end here thats what i want v coh pak 38 moved at 10% move speed while stehaled, the rakt get 50% and impoves with vet In: COH2 Balance
Thread: So people are still okay with Sturmpios?21 Dec 2018, 17:51 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2018, 17:41 PMgbem well volks are actually the second most cost efficient infantry stock (penal) and the most cost efficient infantry upgraded... cheap to make and cheap to reinforce... they beat rifles at long range IS at short range and conscripts at long to mid range...can build sandbags... get a really good incendiary nade for anti garrison... get free fausts with tech and free incendiary nades with the sws truck... the only reason why that cost efficiency isnt OP is because rifles and IS are individually stronger which gives them an edge in individual engagements in exchange for lower field presence... as for sturms idk... i havent really had a problem with sturms as usf as i can chew them up with rifles or assault engies pretty fast... only a sov T2 build really has problems with sturms and thats another can of worms entirely... nah my real fear with USF is the rakatenwerfer... that thing is the number one ambulance killer bar none... false they have almost the same dps at long range and rifleman get reduced RA from base, stg vs bar they lose both at long and close range (at long stg deal 3 (1.5x2) dps while bar 4 and they have 1 more rifle) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Im gonna hit you guys with an opinion21 Dec 2018, 17:42 PM the basic, memorize the cruzz google doc (or at least save it) and pass first math grade, that's it i u have those u can post In: Lobby