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Thread: IR Ht3 Aug 2019, 14:38 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Aug 2019, 14:30 PMSkysTheLimit Should have to pay for each infared sweep, timed munitions ability then give the half truck other ability like reinforce or minimap hack In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What do people think of Conscripts after the patch?3 Aug 2019, 10:34 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Aug 2019, 07:03 AMthedarkarmadillo Quite frankly... Yes. It's included in the teching whether you use it or not. But if you use your infantry they will become complete as you play. You can't quantify how much of the tech is allocated to each bit. Even right now, bp1 gives lmg, rifle nade and panzer grens. As well as part access to a new tier. How do you decide how much is split into each? How much of bp1 pays for panzergren access? Does any? Since it wasn't changed in price when they were MO Ed to t0? How much does the RG cost of that battle phase? Nobody knows because it's not disclosed. Or more likely it doesn't have a value. I doubt that if for some reason the rifle nade was removed that tech cost would change at all. It's a bonus that is timed behind teching rather than an ability that costs like teching. If that makes sense.... The fact of the matter is we CAN quantify the conscript upgrades because they do nothing but things for cons. The price of the upgrade is a direct increase on the cost of conscripts as they only benifit them. Most other sidegrades effect multiple squads in the core army, like weapon racks, or bolster (brit grenade tech being an outlier, meaning YES getting grenades on Tommies increased the amount paid per squad indirectly, since it has no other value elsewhere) i already made an example, compare it to ukf as they have similar costs, to get to tank they pay the same if they rush, ukf loses upgrades and ost loses tech structure if u rush, so the 15 fu +20 fu of the tech buildings are the cost of the upgrades In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What do people think of Conscripts after the patch?3 Aug 2019, 10:31 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Aug 2019, 01:10 AMgbem and core sov is UP aswell... it is quite literally unplayable without its doctrinal crutch units... ost with bad doctrines >>> sov with bad doctrines... the best solution here is just to nerf soviet doctrinal units... thats my 2c yes exactly but what would happen if u only buffed the up unit while not nerfing the op ones when it has good winrates ? ost had bad win rates, so they just buffed the useless unit , soviet has good win rates so u need to nerf the op units accordingly too it's not only doc units penal spam is areal thing In: COH2 Balance
Thread: British balance - Tommy too strong3 Aug 2019, 10:28 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Aug 2019, 08:20 AMRocket Hahhahaha /cry 5 men IS with brens. Its never okay for allies to have an infantry unit that wins in late game. How dare a faction with no elite call in infantry win. So anytime axis uses call in elite infantry you should just lose. Dont even mention commandos diff pony altogether. I often wonder why is it that ost has un doubtely the best mg in the game? Idk i accept it, is it ok for allies to have the best of anything in the game or is that wrong? Cant brits have the best infantry wtf is wrong witth that ? they can have the best infantry if it cost as the best infantry, they over perform for their cost now btw people don't have problem with late IS, they are much deadlier earlier In: COH2 Balance
Thread: IR Ht3 Aug 2019, 10:25 AM if it's really a problem make it a timed ability, 30 sec duration 1 min cd, it's like a recon but with no LOS In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Command Panther Buff2 Aug 2019, 23:58 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 23:48 PMhoneymonstis is it now? the UKF command tank ability lowers the reload speed of the main gun significantly. Isnt the command panther just a normal panther with better sight range and aura? yes it comes much later is locked to panther only and the bonus are worse until vet 3, if it cam crippled it would be useless with the current bonuses and cost is it worth the 40 more fuel if u put it behind tech ? 200 i can understand but 220 ? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Command Panther Buff2 Aug 2019, 23:25 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 23:21 PM13greed47 a scouting plane is great and all but wasnt the command panther equip with a mark and destroy ability that is way better imo (even if giving recon to ukf is welcome) but still okw is the only faction with commanding tank with no draw back i must say the new commander just give faster rate of fire instead of the mounted mg or the panther is only a panther when panther is one of the best tank meanwhile ukf have to make the tank slower and shoot slower and then you have ost command tank that is really bad well ukf gives way better buffs Infantry bonus: +20% accuracy, -20% cooldown, and -20% reload. Vehicle bonus: -30% reload, -30% cooldown, +30% accuracy, and +15% penetration. vs Default: +10% speed and +20 sight radius to nearby vehicles. Veterancy 2: +10% speed, +20% accuracy, and +20 sight radius to nearby vehicles. Veterancy 3: +10% speed, +20% accuracy, -20% reload, and +20 sight radius to nearby vehicles. Veterancy 4: +10% speed, +20% accuracy, -20% reload, +20 sight radius, and +5 weapon range to nearby vehicles. Veterancy 5: +20% accuracy and -20% reload to nearby infantry. as u can see they only become comparable at vet 3 for vehicles and vet 5 for inf In: COH2 Balance
Thread: British balance - Tommy too strong2 Aug 2019, 22:58 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 16:53 PMSupport Sapper Sws HT is 100mp - 15 fuel, OkW and UK both need 10 more fuel from the stat to get SWS as OKW or T1 as UK, but OKW need less MP, and SWS built faster than UKF T1. In terms of unlocking anti garrison tools, Event if UKF have T2 at the same time OKW have SWS, OWV already have flame nade which can be use immediately by volk on the front line, while UK have to keep waiting MP for sniper, pit, or waiting muni for wasp. About 50 call, my point only wrong vs OkV, it still right with all remain faction, and OKW have volk to do all the job. well there is a difference between a flame thrower and a flame nade, btoh range and cost as the flamer will never cost u more after u built it In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What do people think of Conscripts after the patch?2 Aug 2019, 22:52 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 22:48 PMSkysTheLimit Okay but you're comparing apples to oranges and it's really just distracting from the topic no it was on topic he said to count the side tech cost for cons i said do the same for green and u see they are not that far off In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commandos need buff2 Aug 2019, 22:49 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 19:06 PMLoopDloop I really don't see why that's needed though. Valentine used to be able to do what IRHT does in live and people complained it was OP so they removed it. It's IMO kind of a dumb mechanic. Maybe a timed sight boost instead but having passive minimap sight is still pretty damn strong for 200mp, 5 fuel. well nobody would build it like that as it cost pop too , if it could reinforce at least, but just making it see rhtought for 30 second with a cd it would be fair as it's not permanent and require micro (basically a weaker but free recon pass that doesn't actually let u target thing with off map and gives no LOS bonus)i a way similar to major old recon much weaker but free and more risky In: COH2 Balance