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Thread: StuG life not viable6 Aug 2019, 13:26 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Aug 2019, 12:34 PMMaret Some offtopic: but what you suggest to cromw and to sherman? ROF for sherman makes wipes with HE more often. Armor bonus (americans very often use addtitional handmade armor for their tanks, especially on frontal armor and it was better than axis skirts) like in reality? With greater penetrarion make p4 in quite awkward position. Accuracy for cromw i think will lead to the same result - wipes of squads. Armor? Speed for sake of God of speed? I think all remembered old game Carmageddon and wwhat you can did in it with peoples? they are perfectly fine, we are talking about the stugs here In: COH2 Balance
Thread: StuG life not viable6 Aug 2019, 12:25 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Aug 2019, 12:21 PMMaret P4 got armor bonus on vet2 IRC? Penetration still the same at all mediums on every vet, with vet only ROF increase. the Cromwell and Sherman get additional offensive vet bonuses (c gets even more reload speed, s gets accuracy, not at it was really needed) P4 instead gets defensive bonuses In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Anybody playing Luftwaffe Ground Forces?6 Aug 2019, 12:22 PM LOL , I knew this was coming In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: StuG life not viable6 Aug 2019, 11:52 AM I don’t get ur point, people are asking to nerf p4 to make stug viable (very fucking stupid idea), we were just arguing that the p4 is average not op Then I personally think the stug could use 55 range at the cost of rof or price In: COH2 Balance
Thread: StuG life not viable6 Aug 2019, 11:38 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Aug 2019, 11:32 AMMaret Not me wanted that P4 have the same bonuses as allies. Current P4 more than over fit me. 15 pen less than sherman, 5 less than cromwell and 15 more that t-3476))) AVERAGE!!! But have 74 more armor. THE BEST ONE!! See the difference? again u are counting vet bonuses only at vet 0 it only has 20 more armor , and btw other tank get other bonuses, like smoke, moving accuracy, etc Ex: Sherman has the best accuracy and ai, Cromwell is a Ferrari, a t 76 is cheaper than food in Russia (true fact tho) If I’m not wrong the Cromwell get 2 reload bonuses first 30 and then 20 and they are multiplicative In: COH2 Balance
Thread: StuG life not viable6 Aug 2019, 11:26 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Aug 2019, 11:19 AMMaret I don't know exact digits, but let's imagine that it's right. What you will get in that case? German "sherman/cromwell" that have the same stats and abilities as allies, and don't have any strong sides against. You just cutted off your own hands with that decision. Every armor combat between your and ally medium become very danger for you, you got 2 almost equal mediums. Who will win in battle if opponents have equal skills? But if you prefer light armor to other bonuses (accuracy, abilities) why not? When USF and UKF every game will be use M10 against you, soviet su-76 with spam t-70. You maybe understand that more "old" P4 was better than new "modern". well we can make all unit the same for each faction At that point The p4 has average pen, that’s it In: COH2 Balance
Thread: StuG life not viable6 Aug 2019, 11:13 AM U purposely ignored other vet bonuses and did at vet 3 cause u know they are comparable at vet 0 , try to hide ur bias better next time , one could do the same with panther and Jackson only showing range and pen In: COH2 Balance
Thread: StuG life not viable6 Aug 2019, 11:08 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Aug 2019, 10:58 AMMaret Don't see any problems, debuff armor, makes p4 like cromwell or sherman. Allies bazookas, piats and su-76 will be happy to fight against 160 armor. And don't forget that allies medium could be build from top-tier building, while ost in 1 tier earlir. no they come at the same time In: COH2 Balance
Thread: StuG life not viable6 Aug 2019, 10:45 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Aug 2019, 10:31 AMMaret I prefer compare pen/armor values than pure values, when talking about performance of similar units. Pentration from mid to frontal armor values: P4 115/234 (vet 3) Sherman 130/160 (vet 3) Cromwell 120/160 (vet 3) Then let's count chances to pen frontal armor: P4 vs Sherman - 115/160=71% P4 vs Cromwell - 115/160=71% Sherman vs P4 - 130/234=55% Cromwell vs P4 - 120/234=51% yea and u prefer to forget cost and other vet bonuses Try compare them at vet 0 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: StuG life not viable6 Aug 2019, 10:19 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Aug 2019, 10:08 AMKatitof Range, cheap cost, decent penetration. You can have only 2. Plus, why does it need 55 range? There are no range 50 mediums its intended to counter, only 40 range ones. obv there would be trade off, like reduced ROF or increase in price In: COH2 Balance