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Thread: Ostwind Light Vehicle Hunter14 Mar 2019, 12:34 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2019, 22:30 PMStug life i mean historically, anything without armor would get shredded Ostwind had access to AP rounds which could fire in rapid succession and there reports that it could even threaten medium tanks. Regardless of history, increasing the ant-light capability of the vehicles suit the unit in game. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [TEST] Best Long Range Anti Infantry Unit14 Mar 2019, 12:11 PM Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2019, 11:28 AMStug life are u sure about that ? didn't they revert the change when they nerfed bren ? just yesterday i m quite sure i put 2 bren on RE You are right it was reverted. Thanks The Vicker K though should still be superior to Bren so heavy sapper with 3 Vickers K should superior to 2+1. tommy_bren_light_machine_gun_mp 4.7/5.6/6.2/6.8 sapper_vickers_k_machine_gun_mp 4.3/5.5/6.7/7.7 the weapon should be around 1.8 more far dps. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The IS-2: What do we do with it?14 Mar 2019, 09:48 AM Imo many heavy tanks should have their armor/HP lowered and moved as veterancy bonus. Veterancy bonuses and abilities should be individually designed to help the unit in their specific role. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [TEST] Best Long Range Anti Infantry Unit14 Mar 2019, 08:42 AM Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2019, 07:53 AMBizrock Sappers with 1 Vickers and 2 Brens were added to the list. Penals with 2 Vickers lost vs Guards, but won vs Rangers with 3 Bars but I won't put in the list. And by the way Vickers and Brens have the same dps, so whatever. Not according to Cruzz, Vickers has better stat at long range a bit worse at sort. In addition bren are limited to 1 for R.E. Do you mean engineers or heavy engineers? As for Penals so much for the durability argument if they can beat Ranger one of the most durable squads. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: did shock troops need the buff?14 Mar 2019, 00:19 AM Jump back to quoted post14 Mar 2019, 00:05 AMthedarkarmadillo Look, I'm not saying that shocks need more adjustment but they DO compete. If they are equally attractive THEN we have diversity, if not then we don't. Soviet have 21 commanders, how many have shocks and guards? How many are similar enough that the choice of one or the other dictates putting it into your card? The isu commanders for example, I personally much prefer the one with shocks because of vehicle detection BUT guards are a great unit so I usually go that way instead of the cqb unit in a long ranged combat game. They don't fight each other but are competing. Their balance is independent of one another but their attractiveness is not. You can call it what ever you like. My point is simply, diversity (which has to with the faction itself) does not over-right balance (which has to do with faction vs faction), so buffing Shock troops because Guards is very good unit is not justification enough. Solving diversity issues can be achieved by making unit bring different things to the table so that they do not actually compete for the same role. In this case Shock troops is an pure AI unit while Guards are an AI/AT unit so one can use the difference is roles to increase diversity. But since we are talking about doctrinal units one could even solve some of these issues with redesigning commanders. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The IS-2: What do we do with it?13 Mar 2019, 23:51 PM The vet 1 ability and the vet bonuses. That goes for 90% of the units thou. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: did shock troops need the buff?13 Mar 2019, 23:37 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2019, 23:01 PMthedarkarmadillo Eeeeeeh shocks and guards do compete because they CAN'T exist together. When guards weren't viable neither were any of those commanders and before this shock buff shock commanders suffered a similar fate. They compete directly with one another because you have to chose one or the other. Much like brit hammer and anvil design actually No you do not have to choose one or the other. There 21 Soviet commanders and 10 of them do not have either. And the "compete" logic is simply flawed, since it has to do with diversity and not balance. Actually there is balance which has to with how unit and faction compare with each other and there diversity which has to do with how units with in the same faction compare to one another. Lets say we buff Shock to the same power level of Guards making them equally cost efficient but now they compete with PPsh conscripts so now we have to buff PPsh conscripts because no one uses them but then we have to buff penals because no one uses and you end up with OP faction. In the end you have messed up balance vs other faction in order to fix a diversity issue. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Poll: is the Ostwind underpowered?13 Mar 2019, 23:25 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2019, 22:51 PMthedarkarmadillo What is its pen right now? 55/40/35 But the problem is not just penetration since it has very low chance to score a hit a even a collision hit, check post 12. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: did shock troops need the buff?13 Mar 2019, 22:19 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2019, 19:41 PMmiragefla You keep throwing out the word without seemingly to know its connotations. How are Shocks OP in any form even now? They still don't want to fight at mid-range as it means other units can be brought up to support versus them. They are a dedicated AI squad that needs to be positioned and cannot be A-moved like LMG units. Sure, they can 1v1 most other squads, but everything else hardcounters them its easier to keep at range than it is for them to close distance, even with smoke. You are simply missing my point. Balance and diversity are simply 2 separate issues. You argued that: "They have to do that specific job well given they compete with Guard doctrine who can tackles all threats to an extent without needing to close." Shock do not compete with Guards, they do not even coexist since the are not stock units. Shocks fight axis units and they should be balanced according to the performance vs axis infatry. Same goes for Guards. Since guards have already be ranked 3 best long range infatry (according to bizrock) being better than LMG paras and 3 BAR riflemen (who are more expensive and hit the field later) if one wants to make Shocks a more attractive choice than Guards (for diversity reason and not for balance reasons one has to nerf Guards) and not buff shocks. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: New Commander Info: Creator Proposals and Discussion13 Mar 2019, 17:38 PM it not the tiger that needs a buff its the allied TDs that need a nerf. In: Lobby