Profile of Vipper

How am I picking a fight? That's what JohnSmith is doing, and it's why you're rightfully ignoring him

I'm literally asking you one question: Don't you think completely redesigning penals might cause more problems than it solves?

You haven't even provided your rework suggestion in this thread, you just said to nerf the satchel. Expecting others to remember your posts/go digging through your history to find them is honestly a bit ridiculous

Your question does not really mean much.

You are asking me to speculate on something and since I do not have a magic ball all, I can it say is might or it might not, depending a various factors.

What I do know is that Penal been patched continuously for that last 4-5 year probably more than any other unit in the game and they are still not fixed. In sort their design is bad and there is little reason to beat up a dead horse.

As I have posted Penal/T1 simply need a redesign, one can decide to put the effort to fix them or leave them in their current bad state and not bother them with them again.

I like how you underlined half of my sentence. And ignored the relevant part. I didn't say you were the only one who thinks they're badly designed. I said you're one of the only ones advocating for a full redesign. You're certainly one of the only people who thinks that would be simple

I'll ask again, what is simple about fully redesigning them? Elchino gave a suggestion in that thread but they also specifically acknowledged exactly what I'm talking about:

I have posted suggestion on penals plenty of times and others have also.

It seem that I have to clarify that the meaning of the sentence:

"On the other hand Penals/T1 are badly designed and simply need a redesign." is not that redesigning Penal is simple so pls do not put words in my mouth.

You can look them up if you are really interested.

PPSh don't overlap with Shocks, they synergize with them. Until now it was also the selling point of Shock Army.

Think that is your opinion, since I said I have read complains about that commander since day one.

I personally do not mind.

@ Vipper
Thanks for putting forward your analysis. Interesting points you bring up....

You are welcomed.

As you point out Commissar's heal is closer to UKF heal and further far away from ostheer.

I am not sure how many games you have as ostheer but imo it simply not viable for Ostheer player to heal only from medic kit unless they are using the free one. Ostheer needs those munition for LMG upgrades/fuast/mines.

The duration does not really say much either since:
A) Commisar heal multiple squads, medic kit one and there an animation and time that 1 or two squads need to immobile for heal to work.

B) Total amount of heal/speed of heal unclear (I have not check this stat) so the duration of the ability on its own does not really say much.


As for use aggressive conscripts let my try to explain in more detail what I mean.

If one use a conscript army with ourah flanking/molotovs then one would be better getting base heal since one would probably sustain casualties and have to reinforce anyway.

Commissar on the other hand offer a different ways of playing:
either blobbing around the commissar so one can benefit from his other abilities like "Not One Step Back"/"Hold the Line" with these abilities working better in prolonged cover to cover fights
or
defending in cover where the commissar can move and heal after the fight
or
the use of Penal
or
the use of support weapons
In these situation aoe heal is great.

Not as far as I know.


Nothing against SiphonX, but the data shows weird oddities that do not make sense. You cannot use it as an argument.
MP earnings of below 100 for 3v3 and 4v4 within the first 3 minutes? 1v1 and 2v2 generate MUCH more FU and MUN income in the first three minutes, while 4v4 stays at the base income and 3v3 slightly elevated above the base income? This would mean that in larger game modes, there would be next to no territory captured in the beginning. No mode generates a CP until after minute 6? This makes me believe that the binning logic he uses has some inconsistencies.
Additionally the cumulative graphs say the FU/MUN income in small modes were higher early on (which does not make sense as stated above), while the per minute income in large modes is higher from the second bin onwards.

This data has clearly issues.

You can argue the stat with SyphonX, they might or might not have issues.

Point here is the according to stats there not a "massive" fuel difference between 1vs1 and 4vs4 as claimed by a certain user especially early in the game.