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Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2021, 02:48 AMGrumpy

This is simply a personal attack that is being used in an attempt to derail the thread.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2021, 02:48 AMGrumpy

When most tanks have 640 health, there isn't a significant difference between 120 and 140 damage. When the SU76 is paired with another AT (either a ZIS or SU85), it will take 3 volleys to kill a tank whether the damage is 120 or 140. Unless there is a special Vipper version of COH where you win the game based on the number of times you almost kill a tank, there is no significant advantage to 140 over 120.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2021, 18:27 PMKlement Pikhtura

every AT can hit cover and every AT hates elevation, this is not unique just to rak. Not saying it is the best AT, but you almost make it sound as if rak can't hit anything.


Well, kind of true, but once OKW survived the starting phase he can terrorize with flack HT+rak combo, which may force Brit into investing into their own AT.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2021, 03:24 AMGrumpy

Thanks for posting the veterancy. One of the things that sticks out is the +16.7% damage. I didn't realize it got any buff. Due to the way that most tanks have some multiple of 160, the 16.7% improvement doesn't really provide a benefit. Increasing it to 33% like the Puma has would help it a bit. A penetration bonus would also be helpful.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2021, 17:52 PMKurobane

So the SU-76, I have used this unit extensively since COH 2 launched. My opinion on it is that it is not a bad unit for its timing but it doesn't scale well or offer anything of value late game that isn't better spent on other things. It has no real role nor does it offer any meaningful support.


First Veterancy :

Vet 1
Unlocks the "Tank Hunter Camouflage" ability

Vet 2
-25% recharge time of the "Light Artillery Barrage" ability.
+16.7% damage.
+30% accuracy.
+20% ac/de-celeration.

Vet 3
+25% reload speed.
+17.5% rotation speed.
+11.1% range of the "Light Artillery Barrage" ability


The SU-76 Veterancy doesn't offer it anything useful that allows it to scale into the end game. It is all over the place with a bunch of different random things that it doesn't really need. Before any buff or nerf the Vet is really in need of a rework/overhaul. The Unit needs additional penetration/sight through vet rather than accuracy (vehicle target sizes are rather large and it rarely misses even without Vet so its wasted here)
Also the improvements to the units acceleration/rotation via vet should be made baseline as it is a very cumbersome unit to work with.

Second the Unit really should have switchable Ammo - HE Ammo with similar strength to the USF M8 Scott auto fire (with 35-40 range not 60) would allow it to support better. With a bigger price tag (say 10 more fuel) it could be an additional choice over the T-34.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2021, 14:59 PMyunusozgul

As far as I know, the proper usage of the infiltration units is to disrupt the opponent by sabotaging the hostile lines. However, you can't expect them to perform their job without taking advantage of the element of surprise since their main duty is to astonish the foe by suddenly striking the enemy forces so as to inflict heavy losses.

In a nutshell, I'm of the opinion that not only Partisans but also Stormtroopers must be dispatched with their submachine guns in order to encourage the utilization of them.