Profile of Vipper

Avatar Area

Offline Unknown SteamID unknown
Posts: 13496 | Subs: 1

General Information


Thread: Unit & Ability Feedback29 Jul 2021, 14:40 PM Jump back to quoted post29 Jul 2021, 13:51 PMyunusozgul Updated the list. Are you okay with the fact that Airborne Guards Troops arrive on the battlefield as a 6-person squad whereas Infiltration Commandos arrive as a 3-person squad? Moreover, the Airborne Guards Troops unit can either be upgraded for short range or long range while the Infiltration Commandos unit arrive with just submachine guns. I invite you to think logically about this situation. AG are badly designed unit (they where supposed to be airdropped but proved impossible to fix animation) but that is not reason to badly designed other units. IC comandos start with 3 entities because the start with SMG. The reason they where not given enflied is that the get "super brens" and would be OP at long range with them. None of these solution are what I choose but there a logic behind them so "I invite you to think logically about this situation." In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76 buff? 28 Jul 2021, 10:40 AM Buffing Su-76 performance would would have to come with increase in cost. That would lead to being build less because would lead to further delay in T4 which even now is better choice. These issue have to with pace and fixing them would require reverting some the changes that increased the pace. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76 buff? 26 Jul 2021, 15:40 PM Jump back to quoted post26 Jul 2021, 13:07 PMMr Carmine Yes that the pace of the game change is the bigger reason that specificly soviet have a very bad mid game as only their lights got left behind i agree. Same with end tier bonusses. It still leaves the question why fo soviet lights cone out so late when soviets have no ai upgrades nades or a good mg stock? From a balance point of view imo Soviets are not doing that bad. As for timing my point had to do more with the fact that any changes in pacing should be about delaying things instead of making them available earlier. Jump back to quoted post26 Jul 2021, 13:07 PMMr Carmine And though the su76 has better pen. Does it make the su76 a better choice then a puma? The puma offees far more valuable extras the a barrage for muni. Investing Puma in most cases is not worth it if one's opponent does not invest in light vehicles. The resources would probably be better invested in something else or in teching. In sort the answer to question depends on what one is facing. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The state of Sturmtiger26 Jul 2021, 08:35 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Jul 2021, 07:21 AMmr.matrix300 just a quick question: Was abandon of ST ever abused anyways? Never saw it being done and honestly it is a lot of work that might not even be worth it Yes it was beeing exploited. People even fired on their own ST to de-crew it. If you search you can even find videos of Top players playing with multiple ST. Things could even uglier in teamgames where one could supply ST to his teammates. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbEEBCFQdno) Removing the abandon mechanism was a step in the right direction. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76 buff? 26 Jul 2021, 08:19 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Jul 2021, 22:07 PMMr Carmine Yes I rarely see the puma being used vs soviets. Vs usf and ukf it makes sense that is does see more action as their lv timing is earlier and lasts longer then soviets mostly. Again imo soviet lights come to the party to late. This is the problem imo. why does the faction with no stock ai upgrades get their lv's so late? While all other factions with ai upgrades get their lights earlier? Vs soviets flak or flametrack is usualy better then a puma as their is no lv close to being build to counter the former. Just zis and ptrs wich they easely get away from or play around, only the clown car with ptrs but that usualy a suicide move and t1 is neccesary. Also i never meant to say the puma is more effevtive soley vs mediums then the su76. I said the puma has more chance/use throughout the game. The vision of the puma is a big passive free perk, it smoke also can help more then one unit in a pinch. The su76 barrage while usefull makes the su76 vunerable at the same time. Imo there is an issue with pace of the game also but it is not that Soviet light tanks come too late but that many unit come to early. Progressively patches have made powerful units available earlier resulting in reducing the window of opportunity for certain units to pay of for the investment. To add to that bonuses have been added for teching last tier. The combination has created the "rush to last tier" meta. Jump back to quoted post25 Jul 2021, 22:07 PMMr Carmine Yes the puma has 50/50 chance to pen a allied med at max range. The su76 70/75ish percent chance to do the same vs okw p4. Glad that we agree that Puma does not really have penetration advantage Su-76 even when fighting cheaper mediums. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76 buff? 25 Jul 2021, 09:59 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Jul 2021, 19:00 PMMr Carmine Yeah i need to find a better way to explain that. I am tired as of writing these. I didnt say the puma was good vs meds directly but it has imo at least a better chance/use throughout the game then a su76. Partly because allies dont have 234 armour tanks stock, excluding brits ofcourse. The puma sees action unlike the su76 because it arrives on time to deal with allied lights and it has decent ai and utility and much better vision. I don't think I can agree with your opinion. Puma does see more action but imo that has to do with the fact that it is needed to counter allied light vehicles. Su-76 is not needed and going T4 is simply more rewarding. I also doubt that Puma in more cost efficient than Su-76 vs mediums and above. I suggest you calculate the changes to hit and penetrate for Puma and Su-76 vs mediums (or even heavy) because Puma's stat are rather bad at max range. Puma does have better vision but SU-76 has the extra utility of barrage. In sort I doubt many people would bother building Pumas if the opponent had not build LV. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76 buff? 24 Jul 2021, 16:07 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Jul 2021, 14:19 PMMr Carmine Yes it aplies to all factions. Other factions also have tiers that are never used but these tend to one of 2 paths you can take. Soviet t3 is mandatory and except for the t70 is skipped outside of building it. Again its a lv tier wich is unlocked later then it should imo. Until that point if you didnt take svt cons you will probably have had less map control as you cant put out pressure as much. Or you bled heavely. Using lv at this stage just before mediums show up is not good. You need to make the m5 or su76 earn their cost back. Imo that is just very hard to unlikely now with their timing. Yeah i know the puma has lower pen at range 50. But is has aimed shot with higher then base pen, smoke a turret good speed and mobility. The total package makes it a better choice then the su76. The 234 armour comparison is to do with that axis already have better tanks stock, the puama faces less strong tanks and has better support stock. Su-76 and Puma comparison is not very helpful. The unit have different roles and play styles. The main reason Puma see action is because it can allied light vehicles that else can dominate the game and not because it good vs medium tanks. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76 buff? 24 Jul 2021, 11:43 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Jul 2021, 09:54 AMMr Carmine There is little reason to get soviet t3 cus its lv only tier wich arrives later then most lv's of other factions. And those are not that much weaker or less usefull late game. I do see your point that the changes to call in units hurt soviet t3 strats quite hard. With soviets this caused the rush tp t4 playstyle. The "rush to last tier" was a design decision made by MOD team and applies to different degrees to all factions. Call-in stalling and "rush to last tier" might be related but there are differences. In the case of Soviet it has mostly to do with "mobilization" bonuses. There is simply very little to unlock "mobilization" in T3. Jump back to quoted post24 Jul 2021, 09:54 AMMr Carmine The quad and su76 dont scale arive quite late and thus have the tiniest window to get a return on their envestment. In case of the su76 it has very little vehicles it can go up against or even threaten at its timing. The puma wich imo is in or at the top of at lv's still has a good chance/use vs t34 shermans etc because of it speed mobility abilities etc. It doesnt face 234 armour stock but 150/160 wich arrive later mostly as well. I am not sure why you are making the comparison but since you did you have one should also mention that Puma has much lower penetration and accuracy at range 50 than Su-76. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76 buff? 24 Jul 2021, 08:46 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Jul 2021, 08:09 AMMr Carmine Making a unit impotent for its timing isent the right direction imo. The unit is not impotent for it timing. The change actually made it better for units of the same time since those units have smaller target size and lower armour than medium/heavy tanks. Jump back to quoted post24 Jul 2021, 08:09 AMMr Carmine That i needed a nerf is correct. But hurting its combat and utility in such a way that it has no place in any build order at any time is not the way to do it. Actually the unit did receive several buff after the accuracy for penetration trade but even that had little impact in increasing the use of the unit. Jump back to quoted post24 Jul 2021, 08:09 AMMr Carmine Either its vet should allow its old preformance. Or its utility should be reinstated to an extent. Or a role change into a stug e/brumbar light. The unit perform fine for cost. The issue has more to do with the fact that there is very little reason to invest in T3 unit than rushing T4. This a more a pace/call-in changes issue than a performance issue. This a problem created by the "rush to last tier" mentality and tech for call-in changes and thus the solution lies in partially reverting these changes instead of continuing to buff the performance of the unit. For instance if the KV-8 become a call-in unit with not tech (or T3) requirements (and rebalanced as such) there would be a strategy involving Su-76s available. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-76 buff? 24 Jul 2021, 07:55 AM Su-76 might had its penetration reduced but it had it accuracy increased. The change was in the right direction. In: COH2 Balance