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Thread: Churchills need the old armor back25 Jan 2016, 10:18 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2016, 10:15 AMJohnSmith Yeah, I thought I'd ask to get the stats to compare, instead of being lazily redirected to massive patchnotes, difficult to browse, difficult to get since the official forums are down, with possible changes of the Churchill since the release of the faction in August.. I get it that changes were "significant". Horray for helping! So actually someone else should go to patch notes because you are "lazy"? Glad to help. You can also see some of the changes in the first post of this page... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Churchills need the old armor back25 Jan 2016, 10:10 AM Jump back to quoted post25 Jan 2016, 10:03 AMJohnSmith ...What were they like before, what were its stats? Why was it nerfed in release (not alpha)? You can find the changes in Churchill in the patch files...the Alpha UKF where significantly different than the released ones (especially the off map mechanics), when released probably enough data was collected that Chuchill was over performing (most played where picking up anvil over hammer) and thus it was nerfed... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Churchills need the old armor back25 Jan 2016, 09:55 AM Churchill could get some of it HP and armor back but then other thing would have to change: 1) Churchill should have its over-performing grenade toned down 2) Smoke should not provide vision block but yellow cover to infantries 3) "war speed" should not be available to Churchills or it should be toned down for heavy vehicles 4) the synergy of of heavy engineers and Churchills should be toned down.Heavy engineers is a buff in 2 roles both as fighting unit and as repair it should become only in one. Being able to fight and gain veterancy allows H.Eng to reach vet 2 level easily and benefit from 2 repair speed bonuses allowing Churchills to return to frontline very fast. If these changes are made Churchill should have its defensive properties increased In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Popping out of buildings24 Jan 2016, 12:05 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2016, 01:07 AMDonnieChan i don't get the point of these threads it's not about asking for advice or counters... it's just pointless whining... I am under the impression that when asking for advice or counter one should post in ask the strategist... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Cruzz's The More You Know24 Jan 2016, 11:49 AM Jump back to quoted post24 Jan 2016, 11:00 AMMr.Smith I just did a test, and it seems that although you are right that the accuracy bonus is applied on the first shot, I don't think it ever gets removed Maybe it stay as long as you fight the same target... In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Feuersturm Doctrine incorrect description.22 Jan 2016, 16:55 PM The description reads "lay waste to the battlefield with high explosives weapons tools as..." and then mention 2 weapons both of which are flamer so incendiary and not high explosives weapons...(unless the blow up in your face..) In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: Cruzz's The More You Know22 Jan 2016, 14:21 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2016, 13:33 PMCruzz You're right and I'm wrong... To me it is not about who is wrong or right but understanding how things work and your contribution is far greater than mine, even in this subject you did most testing and come up with a result while i speculated more in theory, so the credit should go to you.. The shape in your second pic also seems to indicated that the distance used in calculating the scatter angle is the range to target and not the actual distance traveled (contrary to what would happen in real life) and thus my second schematic should be closer to the in game area.. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Cruzz's The More You Know22 Jan 2016, 13:19 PM Jump back to quoted post22 Jan 2016, 12:39 PMMr.Smith Then, you have two options Option A: 2. Pick an angle from 0 to 360 that will determine the direction of the deviation from the center 3. Pick a value between 0 and the maximum distance until you exit the elipsoid. This would determine the distance I have no idea how relic has implemented scatter. In your option A the actual area would be a closer to circle around the intended target depending on the scatter value and the limit ... As I said before if RNG gives 2 separate values 1 to calculate distance and 1 to calculate angular scatter the shape will probably not be ellipsoid. An ellipsoid shape indicated that shot that scatter max at distance will scatter zero at angle and shot that scatter max at angle will scatter zero at distance and thus indicates a non pure RNG relationship to the two values.... It could be achieved for instance if one used the RNG produced value A and the other used 1/A value... In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Making HT+inf call ins more attractive. 22 Jan 2016, 13:09 PM Currently the following abilities that call in a HT loaded with inf are available: 1) M5 half-truck assault group (CP 5) (540/30)1 M5 + 1 assault Guards, actual value (according to units prices) 270+330=600/30 2) Mechanized grenadier group (CP 3)(500/30)1 250+1 grenadier+1 lmg, actual value 200+240=440/30/60 3) Mechanized assault group (CP 3) (490/30) 1 250+1 P.grenadier, actual value 200+340=540/30 4) M3 half-truck assault group (CP 3) (520/35) 1 M3+1 assault engineer, actual value 270+260=530/35 These call in are rather unattractive because: 1) they need allot of Manpower 2) why might need both vehicle and unit. Although the come at discounter compared to the single call-in half-trucks that come with premium M5 half-truck transport (CP 3) (350/30) 1 M5 actual value 270/30 Reapply half-truck (CP 4) (270/30) 1 M3 actual value 200/25 the single one are more attractive because one get only what he wants... My suggestion would be to: leave them as call in as they are but also allow both vehicle and unit to be built at base (T0) for the normal cost. If that is too much unlock the built once the ability has been used once. This change would allow units that see rather little use like the assault Guards and assault engineers to be used more... Secondary suggestions: 250 generally feel like a units created and forgotten. The units should be able to vet as others (wither with weapon or thru sharing XP), should come with a weapon, and maybe even be able to reinforce as the rest of HTs. I would further suggest that in the "Mechanized grenadier group" that seems as the worst deal to replace grenadier with stormtroopers giving access to more exotic unit. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Cruzz's The More You Know22 Jan 2016, 12:02 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Jan 2016, 15:29 PMCruzz ... While testing this stuff it definitely feels like the explanation for offset in the mod tools is completely wrong. I always expected the hit area to be a half circle at 1 based on that, but instead it seems the offset just moves the entire possible hit area forward (or backward with a negative value). With a value of 1 all targeting is now centered around what used to be the edge of the old scatter area.... Light green ellipsoid part is calculated scatter centered around the targeting circle. Blue ellipsoid overlayed on top is an offset moving the entire targeting area forward. If we forget for a sec the other factors like elevation difference and the tendency or not to overshoot the formulas you provided do not justify an ellipsoid shape. The only why one can get an ellipsoid shaped is if the probabilities of distance and angle scatter are linked, and a high distance scatter shot will have a low angle scatter and vice versa. If the angular scatter and distance are statistically unrelated (and i have no idea if they are) one should be getting one of the following shapes depending on weather angular scatter uses distance to target to be calculated, or distance actually traveled: If the length scatter and the angular scatter are actually related and the shape is actually ellipsoid what distance is used to calculated angular scatter would effect the shape. If the angular scatter use distance actually traveled the shape would be symmetrical over the X axis. If angular scatter use distance to target then it overshot would tend to scatter angularly less while undershots tend to scatter angularly more and the shape would me more egg shaped.. In: COH2 Gameplay