Profile of SuperJew

Hi guys, in many game i have a big problem with IS2 and ISU. I try attack with 2-3 Pz4 but i always lost them
Paks are good but a single shot to IS2 or ISU kill them easy.

The best weapons in each tier for taking down heavies is Pak40/Schreck squads. These get squad wiped a lot so use them in a support role.

StuG for T3. Panther for T4.

Out of all of these units I mentioned the Panther should be your main focus.

Really once IS2 and ISU-152's are hitting the field, QUIT BUILDING P4'S. WIthout any of the call ins the only tank that can pose a threat to either of them is a Panther. And your Panther needs Vet too, so keep it alive. Easier said than done, but losing your first panther can be the whole game right there.

Short of veterancy level 3 maybe, the P4 is a weak soft counter to the Soviet heavies. I usually quit building P4's once I see them churning out SU85's or for Americans, M36 Jacksons. When ISU-152's and IS2's are hitting the field, I tell my teammate "Panthers or better from here on out".


FOr those rounds that are giant tank battles it's good to have a commander with a lot of AT capabilities, Jaeger Armor is probably the best Wehrmacht commander for countering all allied armor in the game, Lightning War is too, and then maybe Close Air Support DOctrine. Why aren't you picking a commander with these call ins though? You need a selection of commanders that can counter the commander you're against. I like Jaeger Armor because not only do I get the Elefant, spotting scopes and Riegel AT Mines, but for Soviet Artillery spammers such as the Soviet Howitzer and B4, I can use an aerial reconnaissance overhead and then drop a stuka right onto his artillery piece, assuming you got the muni for it. Jaeger Armor alone has abilities that hard counters both Soviet Heavy Armor as well as their support weapons like AT guns, as well as Soviet Artillery weapons like the B4 and Soviet Howitzer.

Since there are what, 5 Soviet Commanders who have artillery abilities, I find that the aerial+stuka combo of Jaeger Armor hard counters no less than 5 Soviet Artillery commanders, throw in the spotting scopes, riegels and Elefant, and you can take on a whole crap ton of Soviet Commanders and have hard counters for whatever they're throwing at you.

I often find 2 panthers equipped with spotting scopes to provide plenty of AT for a round thats gone into lategame, since the Panther really benefits from the scope and being able to take long range shots at enemy armor that it can see, but the enemy can not see you. Elefant is more of a team game weapon, I couldn't imagine too many 1v1's requiring an Elefant unless facing some serious tank spam in a round that's lasted more than 30 minutes or so.

What doctrine are you picking? Helps if you have Stuka AT strafe too. Really it takes combined arms to drop those tanks, especially if they're supported.

For a general purpose commander with some late game punch, right now I've been picking Lightning War Doctrine. Best $3 I ever spent. Comes with the Tiger AND Stuka AT strafe, and I was playing around with Stuka AT strafe and I believe he also targets and easily destroys soviet artillery pieces as well as their tanks, light vehicles and infantry and support weapons.

You need Teller Mines, Riegels if you can pick a doctrine with those are better since they immobilize, AT guns like Pak40's or Pak43 with a shotblock in front if you're using a doctrine, Stuka AT Strafe can help finish them off if you've already damaged their engine and the enemy doesn't have too much Anti-Aircraft weaponry, schreck squads to attack the flanks, or a well placed Pak40, but for me the centerpiece of taking on these heavies is a vetted Panther. IMO a vet 2/3 Panther is better for killing tanks overall than a vetted Tiger, it at least has some decent range on it's main gun (Yes I know TIger gets a range buff at vet2, haven't played with too many vet2 tigers though considering how much shit you gotta kill to get it to vet2).

I just wish I had the ammo kicking around to kit them out with them. I never seem to have enough! And maybe I've also been spooked too many times by HE Shermans and IS2's to be all that jazzed about investing that heavily in a squad that could very well vanish if I'm not endowing 100% of my attention to them.

I suppose I can certainly appreciate that versatility. Maybe an option to "holster" the shreks in the future would really make them appealing as a multi-purpose unit.

If you need ANti-Infantry in a round, I'd rather build a grenadier squad than a Pgren squad. Pgren's AI ability is mediocre and worthless at any range higher than mid. I usually build them with the full intention of upgrading them with panzerschrecks eventually. Hold off on your grens Panzerfausts and Riflegrenades if need be to save for upgrading them with panzerschrecks.

They do well at attacking penals while staying outside of their flamethrower range I'll give them that much. Thats one of the few 1v1 infantry battles in the game where Pgrens hold their own. Most squads equipped with rifles will dominate pgrens in any given situation except if they're charging a pgren squad and while the pgren squad is in cover. I also think their accuracy with the STG44 shoots up dramatically if the Pgrens aren't moving, so if you need a squadwipe, hit "S" on your keyboard after you've gotten in range and let them do all the work.

I use them mainly as a AT support weapon. I build them every game as they're so useful. Even with the schreck nerf (which as an Ostheer player even I think was reasonable and was needed to buff allies, particularly the Americans), they're the best AT Infantry unit in the game. put them in cover and have the enemy charge into you. I don't think they become a shocks troops assault type unit until they get vet3 and armor but by then usually I've upgraded them with schrecks for countering mid-late game allied armor and hurt their AI ability so bad (due to replacing 2 STG44's with schrecks) that they're only good for decrewing support weapons and destroying the support weapon so it doesn't fall back into enemy hands.

Hold off on upgrading them with schrecks until your opponent has started spamming vehicles/tanks. Their STG44's are decent to bleed Allied Infantry blobs and cover flanks from infantry rushes for early-mid game AI if you keep them in cover until you need AT weapons.

I often have rounds where my Pgrens do by far the most damage, more than panther tanks, or tiger tanks or any other unit I field because the schreck is such a great Infantry AT weapon, even killed some IS2's with it if u hit the rear armor (try saying the same for a PTS AT Rifle).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but does coh2-stats say that their Schreck does MORE damage, like twice as much, up close than from far away? I'm gonna double check that but that may be why my Pgrens damage is far higher than any other infantry unit I field in the game because I get as close as possible to the target prior to firing off my schreck rounds.

Right now the best way I can recommend to use them is to hide them behind an object so they're not in your enemy's LOS, wait for the vehicle/tank to roll past them and fire off 4 schreck shots into the rear armor. It often is enough to kill a T34 or M36 Jackson.

Also they're good for cutting off the retreat path of say a pesky soviet sniper thats retreating if you keep them hidden and behind enemy lines.

Try not to lose too many men in their squads, you'll bleed manpower and they take a long time to reinforce, keep them out of harms way until the situation calls for them, similar to other support weapons like the StuG, Flamenwerfer halftrack or Pak40.

THe other way I use them is to have my tanks push forward, when they run into AT resistance from enemy tanks, have them reverse back. Often enough the Allied tank will chase to try and destroy my panther/tiger or whatever and I charge up close with the Pgrens and get 4 schreck shots into their armor. These 2 tactics are extremely effective at countering armor with Pgrens.

In conjunction with the Grens Panzerfaust ability, Germans have the best Infantry units for hard countering allied armor, none of the allied infantry can hard counter axis armor nearly as good as a Gren Panzerfaust damaging the engine and Pgrens closing in with schrecks to finish it off.

One last great thing about Pgrens, is with schrecks using my tactics, for me they're about the easiest unit in the game to get up to vet3 in the shortest amount of time possible. My Pgrens make vet2 and vet3 almost every game If I'm keeping one Pgren for AI purposes and one for AT purposes because I don't need a lot of AT for, for example just countering Allied Vehicle spam coming from the Americans, I upgrade the squad with the least amount of experience with schrecks first because it'll pass the more experienced squad in veterancy shortly.

One last thing, never pick up weapons with Pgrens. Have your Grens pick up weapons. Grens need to be used mainly for AI, and Pgrens with schrecks are all but purely an AT weapon.

I'm debating putting this in my bulletin line up. To me 3% increased accuracy is better than the 2% cooldown/2% reload bulletin. Does anyone know?

If I had a General I modeled my play around, or was kind of a role model for me when I'm in game, it would be Gotthard Heinrici. He was a chivalrous officer with a family military history dating back to the 12th century. He was a Knights Cross holder with Oakleaves and Swords and considered the best defensive tactician in the entire Wehrmacht.

The Nazi high command had a strong dislike for him, despite him being an excellent General. He did not do scorched earth tactics and was punished for not destroying Smolensk.

"Late in January 1942, Heinrici was given command of the 4th Army. This unit was crucial to the rapidly crumbling German line directly facing Moscow. The Fourth Army under Heinrici held out against the Soviet onslaught for ten weeks, playing a critical role in containing General Zhukov's counter-attack. Heinrici managed this even though his forces were sometimes outnumbered 12 to 1. During this time, Heinrici developed one of his most famous tactics: when he judged a Soviet attack was imminent, Heinrici would pull his troops back from the line prior to the preliminary artillery barrage. Then, immediately afterwards, he would return them unharmed back to their lines to face the attacking Soviet troops. When an officer protested this tactic, saying it resembled a retreat (something Hitler had forbidden), Heinrici replied, "When a worker is cleaning a punch press in a factory, does he stick his head under the slab when it turns on? No! He pulls it out of the way in time!""

So do any of you have a favorite figure from WWII when you're playing?

BTW I just got back from my Grandpa's place, he's 96, he was a Captain in the US Army and fought in Africa and Italy against Albert Kesselring and Erwin Rommel's forces. A couple years ago he gave me his WWII vintage Captain bars