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This mechanic will do arranged teams more stronger. Simply for every map gradually caping. Infantry can rush middle sectors. And slower cap is more then enough redeemed almost double ammo/fuel income. Practically advantage only for arranged teams. GG

Yeah I do think like that too. It is way easier to execute for arranged teams.


No other competitive RTS I can think off has a similar ressource mechanic that is only available to one side. With both mechanics together you are at double fuel income, that is huge. They already understood in CoH2 that this mechanic isn't good, so they patched it away. Why bringing it up again? Did they forget? Is no one around at Relic to remember it?

Back in vanilla CoH2 Wehrmacht had the Opel Blitz which could set up at a fuel point for example to give more fuel for the whole team, this could be combined with reinforcing the point to gain more fuel. Soviets only had the latter option. This lead to a big fuel advantage in the long term 3vs3 and 4vs4 games for Wehrmacht at least at the maps that hadn't fuel at the centre. After a full year they made it player specific, which was somehow fair, because a single player got a longterm fuel advantage for investing manpower and for choosing a doctrine.

They made it even worse now. Did they learn anything? Now you have the doctrinal Opel Blitz with a ressource bonus for the whole team and the nondoctrinal Kettenkrad with its upgrade that gives the bonus for the whole team too. Combine this to double the fuel amount a fuel point gives to the whole team. That is ridiculous at the bigger game modes, especially if your fuel points are near to your base. And thats the case in a lot more maps than at CoH2.

On the other side USF ha a doctrinal ability similar to the Kettenkrad. But the Weasel has to reach Vet1 first, which makes backcapping from the start pointless like you can do with Kettenkrad, because the whole thing takes too long. On top there is no thing like a Opel Blitz.

What is this nonsense? I really don't get how they could do the same mistakes again and exaggerate it even more.

Edit: Please read unequal in the title instead of unegual

So in this scenario ur getting at-nades and mollys for ur 1 conscript squad? Waste

AT overwatch is better against tanks, but can use the bombing run to delete buildings too. Can still damage infantry as well, decrewed 2 paks with 1 ptab bombing run last night

Yeah that is the strange thing about AT BombRun. It is exeptional strong vs ambient buildings, quite good vs packed infantry / weapon teams and rather bad vs tanks. You don't get what you expect but something different instead.

Higher accuracy? THe cons arent going to miss tanks anyway. If ur talking about that slightly better performance against infantry, whoopty do u took a penal squad and gave it ptrs. In my build order all my penals stay in AI role

PTRS cons can miss Kubel, Hetzer or vet1 221/222/223. With vet1 "combat blitz"/"Blitzkrieg tactics" ability activated they can even miss a PZIV. PTRS penals will never miss any kind of vehicle/tank. So the higher accuracy is not useable versus infantry alone.

Yea it probably meant FMR, the combination of smoke can allow Penals not to get fire upon until they can close in on their target.

Yeah, I mistyped. You guessed right.

True, but cons are dirt cheap and expendable squad. I would much rather have a 240mp squad which I don't really care about throwing in front of tanks and hmgs rather than semi elit Penals that drop like flies. True the mini nuke can work wonders if you can time it properly.

The cons are the ones that drop like flies. On vet0 they habe target size 1,1 and on vet1 to vet2 they have still target size 1 while penal target size (received acc) lowers with every dropped man at least. Only at vet3 they are somehow about even overall. And I wouldn't call cons dirt cheap. Without seven man upgrade (reinforce reduction) they will drain your MP quite a bit if you throw them in front of tanks. And on top of it PTRS penals can do something vs infantry while PTRS cons can't.

If the throw couldn't be cancelled in the midth of its execution I would say PTRS cons are better as an AT unit at least. But I do think Inspire Infantry + PTRS penals + homing AT satchel is better and has way better AI options on top. If you look at the other abilities of the commander its funny that the best soviet AT offmaps are at other commanders (Rocket run and AT-Overwatch). This commander should have got heavy vehicle mines in its rework at least, but it is too late for that now.

The point was to nerf the doctrine in any ways, not making it different.

The removal of combined arms would have been a nerf to the first problem I described. This combination was the main reason a nerf was needed if you ask me. It was a niche and somehow cheesy strat that existed in 1vs1. In 3vs3/4vs4 this commander was picked seldom anyways after the previous WC51 nerf which removed some team game strats.

And there is still the removal of Bulldozer Blade for 75mm, which would remain unchanged.

My proposal was to nerf AP RoF and add some more AOE while adding 10 range to AT shell, to solve the second problem I described. The problem that you should never take AT shell over AP shell at prenerf 76mm.

Offmap instead of Combined arms would have removed 1vs1 cheese and made this commander more viable for 3vs3/4vs4 in one go. Thats what I would call smarter balancing.