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Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2017, 18:24 PMAustralian Magic

So the third game between Von and Burmie clearly showed how awesome and well-thought was the decision to revert pzfaust changes

It was like 6-7mins without any counter to M3 Good times coming for SU T1

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2017, 12:13 PMMr.Smith

Look. We've already tested this in WBP, and we've already seen this in GCS. OKW's lategame is insane. Part of the reason behind the complete insanity of OKW's lategame is the insane cost-efficiency/power of their abilities.

By upping panzerfaust we are limiting access to those OP abilities. That won't stop OKW late-game from being OP as fuck. However, it will make it be a tiny bit less OP.

It doesn't take a genius to see what needs to be changed. However, for as long as Volks and OKW lategame has the potential that it currently has, I am sure they can survive 30 munitions fausts. At least they have fausts.

Bottomline:

The only reason why we touched Panzerfaust cost was because we weren't allowed to touch any of the other OP OKW abilities.

Panzerfaust cost will be restored when the OP abilities also enter scope; not before.
End of story.

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2017, 21:25 PMShadowLinkX37

Ostheer P4: Hp 640, armor 180*, penetration 100/110/120, reload 5.3/5.7, range 40, moving accuracy multiplier 0.5, population 12, chance to pen Cromwell/Sherman/T34 respectivly from mid range: 68.75%/68.75%/73.33%

USF Sherman: Hp 640, armor 160, penetration 100/120/140, reload 5.6/6, range 40, moving accuracy multiplier 0.75, population 12, chance to pen OKW/Ostheer p4s respectivly from mid range: 51.2%/66.66%*

UKF Cromwell: Hp 640, armor 160, penetration 105/120/135, reload 5.6/6, range 40, moving accuracy multiplier 0.75, population 12, chance to pen OKW/Ostheer p4s respectivly from mid range: 51.2%/66.66%*

T34/76: Hp 640, armor 150, penetration 80/100/120, reload 6.1, range 40, moving accuracy multiplier 0.5, population 10, chance to pen OKW/Ostheer p4s respectivly from mid range: 42.7%/55.55%*

OKW P4: Hp 640, armor 234, penetration 100/110/120, reload 5.3/5.7, range 40, moving accuracy multiplier 0.65, population 12, chance to pen Cromwell/Sherman/T34 respectivly from mid range: 68.75%/68.75%/73.33%

(*) Once the Ostheer p4 hits vet 2 and gains the armored skirts it's armor and allied pen chance match the OKW P4

Here's some stats for thought, veterancy wise the t34 needs the least EXP to hit vet 3 followed by the cromwell. Highest is OKW p4 cause vet 5 OpieOP.

The big differences here aside from veterancy is the moving multipliers and cost per unit. Moving multipliers can be negated with glide shots but you still sacrifice momentum for it. Even though these tanks are relatively matched, the cost of allied tanks being lower allows them to field them sooner which gives them a head start on vet as well as bleeding of opponets. Sherman is stronger in this department due to HE rounds.

I think the T34/76 series is a bit too cost effective and should be raised roughly 10 fuel since in the june patch of 2016 they received massive AI buffs. OKW p4 is overpiced if you just rely on RNG to save your tank from allied mediums. Especially when you factor in other meta mediums like the T34/85 which destroys any medium outside of the panther for its cost.

Lastly moving accuracy multiplier gap should be much closer. When comparing the 0.75 of the UKF tanks to the 0.5 of Ostheer combined with their fast speed, Ostheer has a difficult time defending against them. I believe if all tanks were to be within 0.1 moving accuracy multiplier of each other, say 0.55-0.65 we'd still have the importance of glide shots yet sovs and ostheer wouldn't be throwing dice whether or not they're going to hit on the move while UKF is realistically going to hit every time.

With the UKF and USF accuracy multipliers where they are, when playing those factions you have to worry about glide shooting significantly less and thus require less micro and skill. You could argue that this is offset by the Axis having generally the stronger armor pieces which inturn requires less micro.