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You are assuming the maxim was designed to be used like the mg42 as a defensive unit, it was implicitly stated by relic that it was designed as an offensive unit to be moved with infantry on the go. Hence its speed and packing time, yet bad suppression and terrible firing arc.

If you cant flank a maxim then your micro is terrible. Two squads, run toward the maxim (dont even need to bother flanking it outright) one or both will be able to run right past it without being suppressed, if he starts packing up, move behind him, repeat and repeat until hes dead or retreats. Its not rocket science, it happens to me all the time.

This is some high level shit man, who would have thought that flanking MGs with no packup time could be that hard.

Maybe.... maybe.... if they built 2 mgs to back up each other, then they would easily cover both squads, not to mention pull back the first mg.

Most of us in coh2.org have played coh1 so we would know how to flank an MG42 tyvm.

Everytime I see them fighting, I'm actually Loling.

I think I can guess the winner tho

Soviets have 6 man weapon crews because they are generally less effective in other areas then their german counter parts. Why dont you guys understand this? The maxim is NOT an mg42 running around with a 6 man crew, lol. It has half the firing arc and less then half the suppression! Conscripts have the worst armor in the game at 1.0 compared to grens at 1.5 and their damage is laughable compared to grens. They are basically meat shields with some utility abilities. And our PAK is only better because it can "bombard" infantry. Like anyone ever bothers with that waste of munitions that can easily be dodged.

Man, most of the stuff soviets have are really cheesy.

There are many key differences between soviet maxims and MG34s discussed everywhere:

1. Maxims can't be sniped while forcing retreat, MG34s can
2. Maxims have instant pack up time, MG34s take a while. This means maxims can easily rotate whereas MG34s can't
3. 6 man crew
4. Maxims move really quickly compared to MG34s

So, like I said in different threads, the Maxim is far better than the German counterpart to the point where it's a viable capping unit, unlike the MG34. Would you ever see this in VCoH? I think not.

Damage laughable to grens? Sorry, I tend to be playing a completely different game to you. Molotovs/PPSH (20 muni for siginificant increase in DPS) and HTD make them equal if not better than grens. Try killing a vet 3 conscript. You'll find it much harder than a vet 3 gren.

What you're looking at is the units on paper. But really, in the field, the differences are clear and it is now to the point of abuse.

I'm not saying soviet crews should be 3 men, I'm saying they shouldn't be something ridiculous like 6 with merge as well.

Aren't guards some form of light early-midgame AT?

They're still useful against T3.

Ok, I am really tired of this bullshit Soviets are OP crap. You fools do know that the german counter unit of every Soviet unit is actually stronger, correct? It is almost pointless building a soviet t3 because the t34 is usless against any of the german t3 armor equivalants. Ever try to fight a p4 with a t34? It is a joke. So basically every smart soviet player completely skips t3 and builds t4 for the su85, which then gets beat out by a panther. The soviets have NO anti tank infantry, NO machine gun bunker that germans can completely lock down resources with early game. You wonder why we rush clown car? Because its the only fucking thing we can do to win early game and get ahead! And hey dude, one panzerfaust cripples a clown car, get a fucking grip. You germans are a bunch of pussies.

Okay, sigh, let's dissect this.

Shock troops are the best anti-infantry infantry in the game. Period.

And T3 is worth building. T34 is cheaper to build (MP cost as much as a conscript). And also, Ram nullifies German advantages, esp if you have engineers nearby, so T3 is never a joke for the russians. If anything, it makes tank combat a joke (In fact, that's what I haven't seen for a long time in COH2 - tank battles, Ram's made everything kinda boring)

SU-85 gets beaten by panther? SU-85 has a longer range than the Panther so if it's well screened it's even/SU-85 sided.

And I can't believe that you're going around, justifying abusing the clowncar to death. Conscript spam at the beginning is very viable (Spam H on conscripts, if you don't, you're just letting them die).

And if you're trying to launch a L2Play argument on this forum like this, remember that most of us are VCoH players who are frustrated a bit by the cheese of the soviets at the moment.