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Thread: Heavy Assault Guns vs Fortifications4 Jan 2016, 17:16 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2016, 17:11 PMKamzil118 ... so that suggests that you were referring to me... My Apologies if you feel that I wrongly accused you of insulting me, you have not used any diminutive characterization toward me. Have to point out though that you have quoted a different reply... If we could only get back to topic... In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Heavy Assault Guns vs Fortifications4 Jan 2016, 17:03 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2016, 16:54 PMKamzil118 I am not insulting you at all. Do you see you name anywhere in that quote? is there any point in there where I claim that you Kamzil118 have insulted me?PLS read more carefully before responding. If you read the other response you will find characterizations like: "completely blind and deaf, utter denial, stupid and ignorant," when the debate is not about me but about a suggestion I have made. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Heavy Assault Guns vs Fortifications4 Jan 2016, 16:45 PM @any admin I am trying really hard to avoid responding to insults with insults and trolling with trolling. I also feel that I should not have to spent most of time in semiotics in balance thread. Can you pls advice some of the people in this thread that their approach is not constructive? In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Heavy Assault Guns vs Fortifications4 Jan 2016, 16:41 PM My dear Katitof When will you realize that insulting other does not actually promotes you arguments? Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2016, 15:59 PMPlaguer ... This game isn't supposed to be a campfest behind emplacements, it's ment to be fun and have action Did I ever claim it should be? RELIC use the term fortifications and so do I. If the 3 first pages of this thread has not convince you that they exist in COH2 fine, your objection is noted. But if that is the case pls stay out of this thread, this thread for the people who actually thing that they do exist. Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2016, 16:03 PMLucas Troy AT guns work fundamentally different in the game from how they worked in real life ... Glad that you agree with me. (Read my reply more carefully) Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2016, 16:07 PMgriezell dear myself, i dont have the real numbers but it seems like arve, brumbar and sturmtiger, isu 152 can probly 2 shot anyting that you call fortication. Dear griezell A brumbar needs at least 5 shots (according to numbers) to kill mortar emplacement or 7 if that emplacement is vet 3 (probably by the time a Brum is out). That is hardly 2 shots... My suggestion would be allot easier to find if some people did not troll that much...they can be found though on page 3... Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2016, 16:16 PMKamzil118 Truth is, that is a barrage ability only for that anti-tank gun. And thus Katitof is wrong in writing "are not represented in game at all" as you have pointed out they are represented in at least one. GUYS PLS stop trying to insult me and if in your opinion either assault guns of fortifications do not exist, note your objection and stay out of thread. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Heavy Assault Guns vs Fortifications4 Jan 2016, 15:33 PM Dear Katitof Before posting in this thread pls acknowledge the fact that you where mistaken in claiming that assault guns and fortification do not exist in COH2. Before you do that, there is little or no reason in debating with you in a thread about things that according to you do not exist in the game... Once you do that I will be happy to discuss other related issues with you. Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2016, 15:05 PMKatitof IRL AT Guns could also be used to an extend(based on position and circumstances) vs infantry, using both HE and canister rounds, which are not represented in game at all. Although irrelevant once more you have been proven to be wrong. Zis has a barrage ability that use H.E. round instead of A.P thus claiming they "are not represented in game at all" is another mistake from you part (but who is counting). In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Heavy Assault Guns vs Fortifications4 Jan 2016, 14:52 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Jan 2016, 14:41 PMLucas Troy OP, let's put it this way: it would only make sense to have assault guns in the game work like real life assault guns if the fortifications in the game worked like real life fortifications. I do not see any validity in that argument. Tanks in game do not work like tanks in real life, neither do the ATGs. Yet ATGs in game have the same role as ATGs in real life and the still work fine in game... In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Invincible OH sniper last tourney4 Jan 2016, 13:35 PM Imo the argument that if a unit, in the hands of a top 10 player, over-performs and that is reason enough to justify a balance change in that unit is weak...especially for micro intensives units. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Armor Company4 Jan 2016, 12:23 PM Nice guide well done. "Elite Vehicle Crews Upgrade A very situational upgrade for 90 munitions. It changes your tank crew from a useless combat unit to a squishy close range infantry unit. Not effective on crews that have their own vehicles." The upgrade is situational but can be useful on crews that have vehicles. When one is faced with unsupported support weapons like Paks, Rakketn, HMG one can drive his fast vehicles (with low AI) like M10 behind the weapon and pop out the crew with smg to clear the enemy support weapon fast. One must be careful when using this trick so that his vehicle is not stolen... Another way to use it is to run straight to infantries forcing a retreat of fear of crushing then move in-front of them the popping out to hit them with sgms... the is ability situational though....and popping out has its dangers... In: Guides
Thread: Heavy Assault Guns vs Fortifications4 Jan 2016, 11:56 AM Now that we cleared things up a bit, we can move to a more interesting part, which is how to buff A.G. against structures without upsetting balance. One could add some damage modifier similar to Avre against structures. One could also make it veterancy related: for instance Brumbar vet 1 ability "Bunker Busting Barrage" could have damage bonus or even bypass some of the "brace" damage reduction. For instance instead of 75% damage reduction the reduction could be lower down to 50%. A similar change could be made to the Sturm Tiger (S.T.) also by adding similar affect in vet 1 since the vet 1 S.T. is quiet useless. Similar change could be made to other assault guns like the Dozer, Kv-2 indirect, ISU-152 giving some anti-structure barrage abilities (where not available) or some structure damage modifiers with veterancy. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Heavy Assault Guns vs Fortifications3 Jan 2016, 10:46 AM Now that we established that: Fortification exist in Coh2 Assault gun exist in Coh2 and that historically one of the main roles of assault gun was to clear fortification we have one more issue, to establish so we can finally move on. Some people claim that in game designed intent of A.G. (assault guns) in game does not include destroying structures (buildings and fortification). Imo A.G. are designed to destroy structures and that is supported by the fact that in-game description of the units and role say so. Further more, my opinion is supported by the fact that some of them receive modifiers that amplify the damage vs structures. In the end of day even if their in-game designed intend was not to destroy structures (and that is highly unlikely) one should attempt to make it. If Relic could introduce changes that would bring a unit closer to their real life role without upsetting balance they should do so because it would increase immersion.... If one could In: COH2 Gameplay