People talking about Volley fire, lmao do you guys even stream top rank matches? Volley fire is retarded you know why? because the moment you start the volley fire and till the time the unit gets suppressed not pinned you are already down to 2 models and then you can imagine the damage 2 RE models can cause. It is stupid to use against sturms or any other mainline infantry whilst attacking they are attacking RE directly. Hence it becomes a useless ability which works really slowly. So yes RE have to be the weakest starting unit since a Engineer Sov with flamethrower does more damage.
Scaling for RE is not that appreciative unless you spend another 60/120 ammunition or 50/100 on it. the 5th man increases its survivability. But asking for equipping it with BAR is retarded IMO since you guys are talking about arming the REs which does not solve the problem that they are weak without it.REs don't exist to be equipped with a BAR to perform, it needs to perform without it and improve upon equipping it.
in comparison: sturms are op, get to plant normal mines which attacks Infantry and tanks too. Can be upgraded with Schrek. Can 'keep away' its minesweeper to get all 4 models to attack and also has a stun grenade.
OSt engs can be upgraded with flamethrower, can make sandbags, have satchel lmao, can make 2 types of mines with AT mine being OP
just like the mg 42 supres almost as soon it hits should volly fire be as soon they open up fire and supress. make it so that they need a longer reload time after they empty them magazines so the other units can get out of supression. so its more a combined abillaty on 1 unit they supress