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Thread: Partysons interfering with the design and pacing of the game18 May 2016, 16:46 PM Jump back to quoted post18 May 2016, 16:40 PMwouren Not the point he's making. It's the fact that howitzers are hard to use effectively in 1v1 and even 2v2 Well it's rather difficult to make any sense from the majority of katitof's post...other than axis are OP allies are UP. The original argument was that going for Partisan "cuts you off from additional indirect fire/late game options." which basically makes any sense only as arguing that these commander are "poor" commanders. Artillery Pieces by definition are indirect fire units. If one wants to describe mobile indirect fire artillery in game, one should refer to either SPG (self propelled guns) or rocket artillery. Partisan commander are ok. The are even better in the patch preview due to the buffs to soviet stock units. In addition Partisans are the most cost efficient spawning units... In: Lobby
Thread: Partysons interfering with the design and pacing of the game18 May 2016, 16:05 PM Jump back to quoted post18 May 2016, 15:36 PMKatitof I can give you TA, but we all know state and validity of static arty, so 2 at best. You can give me TA? ohh how generous of you... So the logic is that artillery pieces are not indirect fire option, because they can be counter by off maps? Maybe we should add that to definition in the dictionary? Having to go for off map to counter artillery pieces though also limits enemy commander selection. In the end of the day your argument about Partisan holds no water. Both commanders, are decent and are used, Partisan are the most cost efficient spawning units and the strong point of theses commanders. I would guess that most people choosing a commander mainly for access to spawning units would chose one with Partisans. Once more these commander are even more viable in the new Patch. In: Lobby
Thread: Partysons interfering with the design and pacing of the game18 May 2016, 15:22 PM Jump back to quoted post18 May 2016, 14:51 PMKatitof That is still 7 docs. 2 for soviets. 2 for OKW. 2 for Ost. And one for UKF. Actually 3 out 7 commanders: ML20 Land mattress Tiger ACE and that is the point of commanders they give you some options and not all option. With that logic we should buff the Wer Puma because that commander "cuts you off from additional indirect fire/late game options." I would also argue "mark vehicles" is a late game option because it better used against enemy heavy tanks... Partisan are the most cost efficient units that can spawn and both Soviet commander with access to them, will probably see allot more action, if the patch goes ahead as is. AT partisan is one of the best support unit for SU-85 being able snare and attack enemy vehicles trying to flank. In: Lobby
Thread: Royal Engineers are op17 May 2016, 13:05 PM UKF is currently the most "exotically" designed faction and if these trend of homogenizing factions continues they will eventually see a redesign... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [May Patch] Remove the self spotting ability from the SU8517 May 2016, 07:40 AM Jump back to quoted post16 May 2016, 21:11 PMelchino7 ... Tracking should be detecting VEHICLES, not infantry beyond LOS. AND it should not be the SU85 vet1 ability. ... Iirc "tracking" on vehicles did not reveal infantry in the mini map before that patch. The zis "tracking" would not reveal infantry either until you merged conscripts to the zis. Once you merged conscripts tracking would reveal infantry on the mini map. I suspect that relic either was unable to fix the bug or decided to give this bonus anyway so they changed the sight bonus and cost. "Tracking" is about "ok" as an ability, the combo of "focused sight" and "tracking" is problematic on the SU-85, 105 sight range on a TD with range 60 is simply way too much. A TD should not become better than stock recon vehicles...(222 sight should also be capped). In: Lobby
Thread: Royal Engineers are op17 May 2016, 07:13 AM Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 06:51 AMKatitof T1 units are stronger then T0 units. Jump back to quoted post17 May 2016, 06:51 AMKatitof More expensive unit of role A > cheaper unit of role A. Not sure if arguing for the sake of act of arguing or just that stupid Your first post contradicts your second post. No idea if you are posting for the "sake of the act" (thus you have reached 8.9k posts) or you are "just that stupid" and cannot actually write what you mean. In addition post patch Penal will be stronger than P.G. which are both later tier and cost more... So once again your new "rule", as pointed out, is not very accurate. As I pointed out previously, Tier and cost are 2 major factors (not only 1 of them is the deciding factor as you have posted in 2 different posts...) but there are also other factors... Ro.E. is currently the most cost efficient engineer type unit. This might change if the patch goes as is...and they might become the second most efficient. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Royal Engineers are op16 May 2016, 22:51 PM Jump back to quoted post16 May 2016, 22:13 PMKatitof T1 units are stronger then T0 units. ... That is not very accurate...currently in live Grenadiers(T1) loses to riflemen(T0) and to I.S.(T0) Penals (T1) lose to SP(T0). Tier is one factor, cost is another. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Partysons interfering with the design and pacing of the game16 May 2016, 14:31 PM Jump back to quoted post16 May 2016, 12:44 PMKatitof Lets ignore the fact that going for these commanders cuts you off from additional indirect fire/late game options. Indirect fire like the ML20...oups "Soviet reserve army" the one of two the commanders with access to partisans comes with ML20... In addition the new Su-85 is actually a late game option, so is the a need for additional late game options? In: Lobby
Thread: [May Patch] Remove the self spotting ability from the SU8516 May 2016, 09:59 AM Jump back to quoted post16 May 2016, 09:32 AMKatitof Hardly from all buildings, but mortar and sniper flares are indeed nothing to be ignored. T1 sniper/flares T2 Mortar flares, ATG "tracking" T3 Su-76 "tracking" T70 "recon mode" T4 Su-85 "tracking" "focused sight" so every tech building has at least one. add "trip wire flares" to infantry from T0 if you want and every single SU building has a recon ability... Jump back to quoted post16 May 2016, 09:32 AMKatitof And please, have you even seen how much tracking adds? It was ninja slaughter nerfed long time ago without relics word on it, sight was cut by 70% and cost was almost doubled. Yes I have, have you? If you want to refer to ninja changes pls be more specific, state when and what was those changes. Using "tracking" a Soviet unit has the about the same sight radius as 222. Using both "focused sight" and "tracking" the SU-85 can spot forward about (a bit more actually) as much as 222 using spotting scopes... PLS check your facts, before posting, so we can avoid unnecessary posts like these... In: Lobby
Thread: [May Patch] Remove the self spotting ability from the SU8516 May 2016, 07:56 AM Jump back to quoted post16 May 2016, 01:45 AMeasierwithaturret Nothing at all wrong with focus sight. It is a useful recon ability for a faction that mostly lacks that capability... Soviet do no lack recon abilities, on the contrary they probably have the most stock reckon abilities in the game available from all buildings. "Focus sight" on its own is not that bad but the combination of "tracking" and "focused sight" is OP. It was removed from ISU-152 and should be removed from SU-85 also. In: Lobby