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Thread: Idea for Penals7 Apr 2016, 19:09 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 19:04 PMthedarkarmadillo ... as the soviet and you pick NKVD ... If the NKVD commander does not work redesign the commander not the faction. Currently doctrine selection is very important in all faction. Thus at high levels you see the same commander again and again.. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: current state of wermacht g43?7 Apr 2016, 19:04 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 19:01 PMHans G. Schultz Extremely late and random double post. Admins/Moderators please remove. No to make PG more cost affective and G43 on them a better option.... In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: So penal is underpowered? or others are overpowered?7 Apr 2016, 19:02 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 18:45 PMthedarkarmadillo also were discussing changes, any buffs will require some other changes for example if we were to give grens a 5th man to buff survival NO ONE AT ALL is expecting them to retain their current stats, lmg, and tech included abilities NO ONE and receive a buff. Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2016, 16:15 PMKatitof Long range DPS from 4 to 8. Done, unit fixed. Nothing more is needed, no big changes, no new abilities, no vet changes. Just this simple change gives them new utility without impacting their intended role of mid range squad. ... I guess that THERE AT LEAST ONE Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 18:45 PMthedarkarmadillo people are so stuck on "they have flamethrowers so no buff"... I don't know who this people are but I let you know If I see one... Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 18:45 PMthedarkarmadillo i mean.. if they were fine there would be alot less maxim spam.... Penals should become more attractive... turning them into a unit that can take out 1v1 Gren/PG and Volks/SP is another. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: current state of wermacht g43?7 Apr 2016, 18:47 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 16:33 PMHans G. Schultz They should make improve G-43s for Panzergrenadiers, because right now, it's a complete waste of munition to buy it for them. I would rather have PG cost 280-300 come out with 2 ST 2 K98 and the option to buy 2 shreck or 2 ST44 or 2 g43 doctrinal. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Idea for Penals7 Apr 2016, 18:42 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 18:32 PMthedarkarmadillo both are linked, making penals halfway decent would open up a wealth of choices for the soviet No redesign the faction and making Penal useful is not linked...one can happen without the other Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 18:32 PMthedarkarmadillo and i maintain that true balance will come when all factions can fight against each other (by that i mean axis v allies, not expecting a usf vs ussr matchup) without needing a doctrine as then the only thing that needs adjusting is the doctrines themselves, which wont be needed to stand a chance, just diversify play and cater to playstyles/ add flavour I don't agree that making doctrines flavor only is needed for the game to be balanced. And you are actually talking about redesigning the whole game not only Penal and the soviet faction... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: So penal is underpowered? or others are overpowered?7 Apr 2016, 18:34 PM 5 men riflemen with flamers proved problematic. I doubt that 6 men Penals with flamers the same firepower and the ability to blow up OKW trucks will not prove equally problematic just because then need a cheap production building... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Idea for Penals7 Apr 2016, 18:11 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 15:58 PMthedarkarmadillo ... what the soviet need is a unit that can make picking one of the many doctrines without call in infantry viable, not more cannon fodder Are you trying to make Penals more attractive or residing the faction? The faction is rather balanced and is designed to utilize commander's specific units. Redesigning the faction and making Penal more attractive are 2 separate issues... If some commanders without call in infatry do not work that is the problem of the commanders and not faction.... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Idea for Penals7 Apr 2016, 10:27 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 01:21 AMFiresparks the soviet meta is dependent on doctrinal call in units, but there's nothing to say that's the design. Any idea why soviet some sort of doctrinal infatry call-in in most of their commander? Any idea why some of these call in infantries are some of the most cost efficient units? Any idea why most of the Soviet stock units do not excel in anything? It could be pure chance on hand or it could design... Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 01:21 AMFiresparks ...the flame rifle is a lot easier to deal with. Not if the rifle that is suggested has great DPS in all ranges allowing to beat early stock axis infatry in all ranges. Shock troops are great only if and when they can move in close, with the suggested weapon Penal would dominated in all range and that is bad design. What do you think would happen in the game if axis suddenly had T1 access to P.Fuss that come with 6 G43 (no At grenade)? Creating 6 men stock units that are very good in all ranges will create more problem than it will solve. Penal should either use SVT and be average (close) very good (mid) average (far) or bolt action rifles and be average average very good. At least that is my opinion. Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 01:21 AMFiresparks the flamethrower is an anti-infantry + anti-garrison upgrade. it significantly boost the unit's firepower against infantry, similar to how stuff like the lmg42 boost the squad's firepower against infantry. Flamer and LMG are both weapon upgrades but the similarities end there...Flamer are weapon designed to deal with cover and garrison. Why you insist in this? If penal need a new role they need a new role regardless of what their previous one was... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Idea for Penals7 Apr 2016, 10:06 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 03:47 AMthedarkarmadillo and we know that once relic makes up their mind they dont change it! Faction have been design to have strong points and weak points. Is that set in stone? No but when one wants to change the some of the strong and weak points of faction one usually has to completely residing the faction itself as it was done with OKW. So they question are: Does the soviet faction need a redesign of having better stock units and less dependency in call in units? Is the idea of turning Penals to riflemen clones enough reason to redesign the faction? Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 03:47 AMthedarkarmadillo in the end no matter what they do to penals they WILL overlap with someone in the soviet rooster (heres that outdated design again) and currently they overlap with the worse and most accessible one... It has been suggested that penal become osttrupen type unit something soviets miss both in stock and in doctrinal and that some of the utility of Consc should be shared with them. So there are solution that do not overlap... Jump back to quoted post7 Apr 2016, 03:47 AMthedarkarmadillo give them a pair of scoped SVTs maybe that improve their long range dps as suggested but make it reduce close DPS enough that sturms and pgrens will beat them adjust price accordingly Or simply give them bolt action rifles for far DPS and SVT weapon upgrade for mid DPS... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Weapon profiles7 Apr 2016, 09:49 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Apr 2016, 23:21 PMFiresparks the weapon profile relic implemented so long ago was really a theory on how the game would work, but realities doesn't change itself to fit theory. Relic made exceptions for the g43 and the American semi-auto because they realized the weapons need it. Right now, the svt-40 have become the exception by sticking to the original rule, and it suffer for it. G43 is an exception because it is a weapon upgrade and it is also limited to half the squad members. The exception in USF has to do with the fact that USF did not actually use bolt action rifles in WW II that much. SVT is an exception because it never did follow a carbine profile. It has too much DPS close and not enough in other ranges. Weapon profiles are a guideline and not a strict rules but moving away from it makes the game worse and not better. When someone can he should try to follow weapon profiles. For instance since conscript PPsh did not work well with Mosin instead of increase mid DPS PPsh they should be replaced by an SVT weapon with less damage close and more mid... For the same reason if one want to make a unit for fighting far it should be equipped with a bolt action rifle and not carbine...(if that is historically possible) In: Lobby