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The 3-shell barrage and long cool down also have something to do with it not being used much. It moves slow over some terrain so is easy to wipe when retreating.

However, at vet 2 it is already really good and at vet 3 is the best moveable on-map so those bonuses definitely don't need to be buffed.

Hey everyone!

With the way things are currently going as we wait for GCS to chug along and waiting for the powers that be to grant us permission to begin work once again, the Balance Team has been doing some work on the side to try and work on certain issues and get them tested as we remain on stand-by.

Given that the main factions we want the others to follow are the EFA, we began working on them first and resolving their issues to see how it affects the rest of the game before we work on WFA and Brits.

Down below is a list of changes separated between Soviets and Ostheer.

You can also grab the changes here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=929737693

Any feedback and criticism is welcome!

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Most of the changes look good on paper. It would be nice to see all call-ins to be build but short of that then the 25% penalty ok. I think the Ost Panther buff might entice some people to actually build it, and also like that T4 doesn't have to be researched. The Brummbar nerf might let anti-tank guns live long enough to do something against it.

The only thing that sticks out as questionable is the change of manpower for fuel on the ML-20 and B4. This change will probably make sure that it is never built again. The biggest problem with the ML-20 and B4 is the stuka dive bomb wiping it. The price increase on the dive bomb might help, but probably not.

The second problem with Soviet arty is the cumulative changes. The old six-shell ML-20 was great. If someone blobbed, it was only a matter of time before you could punish them severely for it. The larger AOE also meant that you could fire it into an armor charge and help blunt the charge, maybe even stop it. The new model, with more shells but a much smaller AOE is mostly just good against OKW trucks.

The ML-20 would be much better if the cost was cut from 600 to 300, the shells cut from 8 to 4 (half damage, half cost), pop-cap from 15 to 10, and a limit of 2 howitzers. Alternatively, restore the old AOE but cut the number of shells to 2 or 3. This would make them much more accessible in small game modes without buffing them into something that is game breaking.

Note that two of them would fire as many shells as one of the old ones, but cost 20 pop-cap so it kind of nerfs them in terms of damage/pop cap but I don't think too many players would complain. In fact, I bet most players would agree with this and limiting all indirect fire units to 2 each (this would require the Priest to be changed so that it can't be decrewed).

I like those ideas. I'm fine with the direction the thread is going, but did anyone read the OP?

I read it, but don't agree with a 4-man sniper squad. There is already another elite infantry in airborne (paras) so any other squad should be a support unit. The rest of the post I mostly agree with.

You start off your argument saying OKW should be nerfed to Ost levels, then say Ost has the highest winrate. So basically you're saying OKW should be buffed to Ost levels?

No, OKW and UKF repair speed nerfed to Ost levels.

It's bad enough that OKW gets a non-doctrinal, no-micro-involved, quick repair (UKF gets a doctrinal one that is more expensive but better), expanding this to other factions would be really bad for game play. Part of what made Comets so good was that they were hard to kill and could be back in play really quickly. Get three of them together and it was hard to lose one, your only cost was upkeep while the attrition would eventually cause the other side to collapse. OKW couldn't quite do the same because the Panther's AI isn't that good and KT's limited to one, but giving the Brummbär repair stations is a really bad idea.

Have you actually played games as OST?

Yes, several hundred games between my main account and test account. I win more often with them in 1v1's than any other faction. Is there an actual point to your question?

They are my second least favorite faction (behind Brits) but that has more to do with 4-man gren squads, that get wiped way too easily to late game indirect, than anything to do with repairs. I'd pay the same as the UKF for a late game upgrade to 5-man squads. Other than that, the only unit I think isn't worth it is the Panther, which should be buffed to be similar to the OKW version.