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nonsense thread

I think the Maxim needs an MP cost reduction and a vision buff to compensate against other MGs. MGs are an integral part of this game and one should not be as bad as the Maxim is. Soviet early game is already quite terrible in team games. It could use a buff.

No, the maxim does not need vision buffs

rather an agility or cost reduction buff

• Maxim is not "trash" unless you think that "not being instapin MG42" is a trashy quality. Then you would be a simpleton.
  
• I don't really think so. MG42 is definitely not an "offensive" MG. It has a huge arc of fire, because it must be able to defensively close down an area. It has huge setup time, so no point in moving it.
  
• That's a huge huge huge strawman. If a grenadier walks up in front of the Maxim he may not get instapinned like MG42 but will certainly be suppressed, meaning they cannot fire the rifle gren from the distance they would have. Same goes for PzGrens. Sure they have an amazing grenade, but that is for killing it from the rear or very front of a machine gun. The scenario you have in your mind "walk in front of a Maxim with PzGrens and they will instantly wipe it" is a pipedream for axis players.
  
• What you say is true stats wise but you are simply reaffirming what I said earlier. No point in fighting over what faction "has better stats" simply because we are comparing apples to SKANIA trucks. Just not the same. Don't point out ridiculous sub-arguments in order to move away from the original discussion. I called it first by saying: stay on the topic of Maxim, do not talk about faction design imbalances/asymmetries. Also, if you unironically think that Cons are """non-scalable, hence 7men upgrade""" excuse me but your issues are simply L2P ones. Cons are amazing cannon fodder that can man everything, snare everything, reinforce everything. Again, this is what you get wrong about the game design. Not every unit you have is meant to just straight up kill, and not every faction has got to have the same objectives as the other. Broaden your vision of the game plz.
  
  3 Cons plus 2 Guards for example is an amazing AI squad and utilizing the Merge ability becomes dirt cheap to reinforce. Do you think we should make another thread on why "Merge" is an OP ability and should be given to all factions?
  
  
• Ok let's make Maxim 240mp, I personally could not care less.
  
  

- why buy a machine gun that does not do it's job?
-"the MG-42 isn't an offensive MG, because it has a long setup time" brother, the maxim an equal setup time, who would call that a "good offensive MG"?
-the maxim was infamous because axis infantry blobs could straight up walk up to it frontally, and simply death loop the MG. They apparently fixed the issue, but only partially. Regardless, it is a "strawman" purely because I did not mention that you need two squads, one to bait the maxim, and the other to simply nade or bypass the firing arc. I obviously expected an axis main to know his basic strats, but i guess i was wrong

-some gibberish nonsense, i will not bother replying to this

- 3 cons 2 guards is manpower heavy but a good, standard army comp. Merge lets you reinforce for cheaper, but conscripts retain their defensive stats and will die easier than the guard models, so it isn't some 1300 IQ korean strategy

That's absolutely untrue. The Maxim used to be so OP that it could end games before 6min mark and now it's in its "normal" place. Comparing it to the Maschinengewehr-42 is straight up retarded since the two vanilla factions have completely different scopes and tools to do so. And if we attempt to start this discussion we would end up again arguing about how asymmetrical both factions are, the fact that OST has 4 men squads while SOV can have 7 men cons, OST has ATG that only shoots vehicles whilst SOV has Zis etc.

That's the tool SOV have. Like it, not like it, it does not matter. It will never be a MG42 vol. II so let's just stop with this.

-"maxim was op" isn't an argument, currently its trash, every single machine gun in the game outdoes it, and it costs the same as those. You can also steal other MGs, making the maxim obsolete, while a lot of okw and wehrmacht players never even pick up fallen Maxim guns, those that do make their defenses considerably weaker because the maxim's lower arc of fire

-you can use the mg-42 in the exact same fashion as the maxim (an """offensive""" MG, made up term by vipper), and you will enjoy considerably more success than if you used a maxim. Asymmetrical faction design does not mean that this unit should play out exactly like an mg-34/42 and only be inferior stat wise.

-the maxim has six men squads, but so do all other stolen machine guns. However, six men squad does not increase it's survivability. The maxim fights against grenadiers with long range, anti-static rifle grenades, or panzergrenadiers who have extremely lethal bundle grenades, even volksgrenadiers can walk up and throw their incendiary grenade, which will force the maxim to relocate or retreat. The maxim is more effective in buildings, but then it's 6 men squad advantage is completely nullified here.

-the pak-40 has no anti-infantry barrage, but it has better penetration, better reload, and a stun shot that will stop vehicles in their tracks. conscripts at six men would be rather lackluster infantry that had bad scaling later on in the game, which is why they added 7-men cons upgrade




asymmetrical design is not an argument that you can use, seeing as then the maxim should have increased agility so it can react better to compensate the lack of firing arc, or be used in offensive operations. You clearly don't use the maxim, is it fine because volks can flame nade it easier than other MGs?

nobody wants the maxim to be overpowered, most don't even know when it was overpowered, it simply is NOT a machine gun that you would pay 260 for, or even 20 manpower to reinforce it. a price tag of 240 suits it better, that is the best balance idea, seeing as even the slightest combat buffs would make people like you and vipper go insane

Flame Hetzer is rather useless in my opinion. It is not a bad unit and performs well the issue is that it is not something that you really need with OKW.

Take Soviets for example, if you go for T2 opening or Conscript opening the T-70 fills a nice gap in the anti-infantry department. OKW already does very well with anti-infantry so getting even more anti-infantry through the Hetzer is pointless as it has no utility.

If it had an upgrade to convert it into an anti-tank vehicle or had some form of command aura with it then it would be worthwhile but at the moment the fuel is better spent on other things.

the hetzer is alright because it torches infantry alive, but then you realize that both your standard medium tank (p4) and your nondoc heavy tank are infamously known for obliterating entire infantry squads with 1 shell randomly

making the hetzer pointless in most people's eyes