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people who exclusively play okw/wehr -> "maxim good"

Wait... People use the SU-76?

For real though 75 seconds seems pretty long for something that isn't free anymore and it's not exactly super strong unless it's one of those things that is stealth good but nobody knows because it's buried on a unit that hasn't been buffed out of irrelevancy yet.

the prime focus on the thread is not the unit itself, but the barrage

while its TECHNICALLY a "superior" barrage, the zis-3 can fire shells out almost constantly, and three barrages certainly are better than one identical one.

the stealth doesn't even give an ambush bonus, so that's a waste

And yet here you are complaning about stats of inf. from the worst faction ATM?

They are the only base line inf. with NO AT nade. Use that fact wisely instead of jumping into tommies behind green cover.

tommies are only ever terminators once the person who uses them puts command vehicle aura behind them

Perhaps you can give this rank 10 million player some advise, I felt completely at a loss to do anything vs this strat. I wonder if using flame HT would have been a good options as it has more AoE. I tried using 222 but the paths model wipe any supporting infantry faster than the 222 can deal damage to thier blob.

you had too few infantry and built a second MG against pathfinders


final verdict: blob better and build more lmg grenadiers

This is objectively not true. Soviet players might not open with maxim, but maxims do see a lot of action in high rank plays, even in 4v4 tourney. You just need to know where and when it should be used.

the maxim as a starting unit is completely garbage, which is why any sort of composition where the maxim is the core unit (or is spammed) completely fails on it's head and loses immediately. if you finish your infantry force, then the maxim being purchased will only strengthen your defenses. Other MGs do this better, but the maxim is better than nothing at least

Again the whole premis of the complaint is that maxim is worst then MG42 in actually being auto-firing MG. Thats the core of the problem here, but maxim has other advantages (which are being called shit for some reason).

List of them being:
1) Being able to win MG duels
2) Much more sustainable to damage
3) Easier to relocate
4) Supperior AOE suppression
5) Really strong and cheap sustain fire ability
Disadvantages are:
1) Smaller arc of fire
2) Slower to suppress
3) Even slower at suppressing yellow cover

1- this is due to it's squad size, if you take any other MG in the game, you will win similarly
2- i do not understand this point. If it means that the maxim takes more punishment, then that is not exactly true. Yes, you got 6 men, but maxims out of cover can be gunned down by lmg grens (before suppressing them), and otherwise AoE damage (mortars and what not) deal very effectively with maxims, like with any MG
3- this is not exactly true - its setup and teardown time is identical to the MG-42, and it's walking speed feels basically the same as well.
4- this is a situational advantage, particularly versus enemy cover, but the MG-42 also has aoe suppression (and enjoys faster suppressing, so you can just compensate the worse AoE with that). more at point 5
5- sustain fire is cheap and strong because it permits the maxim to actually suppress it's enemies. It turns it into a proper machine gun for 30 seconds. It's use is rather restrictive before veterancy 1, as you need to cycle a reload before firing, costing (sometimes) valuable time.

and all disadvantages are qualities that define a good machine gun.

If you need suppression platform and you dont give a damn about other advantages, then there is DSHK for this reason.

...and many people do

Soviet 120mm is the best example of it, it was meh but survivable. It was buffed, surviability was untouched and now its cancer to deal with.

i don't see what the 120mm has to do with anything, let alone the maxim.

tdlr: need suppression use DSHK, maxim is situational unit which wont work if you want to use it as MG42.

then why are you buying the maxim? it isn't more agile than its competitors, it only suppresses if you intentionally go into it and sit there, it isn't even cheaper than it's competitors. the DSHK meanwhile has suppression, agility in both vet and it's vet1 (FREE) ability, six man squad, anti LV performance.
you are NOT paying for "suppression", you are paying to have a proper machine gun in your arsenal, Gachi.



maybe the soviet player should just humbly steal an MG-42, and live his life out happily