I care about Wehr, but you don't seem to care that Gren LMG's are a bit.. crazy in this current build? Without counting the beta patch.
Also how is Wehr in trouble with WC51? They have fausts from the beginning (also MG). As said above, it's not a different situation from M3.
Well I honestly don't understand why people are so scared by lmg grenadiers. The base squad, the grenadiers, are so easilly killable. Yes, they have abilities, they can fight infantry, light vehicles and faust tanks but why are they so scarry? Lmg or not lmg equipped they are quite fragile and will disappear in a second if not carefully baby-sitted. Not the case of cons and rifles! Even if you are a bit careless you will still remain with 1 or 2 goofies in the squad that you can say "oh shit!" and quickly retreat when you finally see they are in trouble. Same thing with the volksgrenadiers. But poor grenadiers, they are the big loosers among main infantry squads.
Pal, on paper it should look even worst. Did you know IS2s had a huge reload problem? People are accusing german mechanical failures but don't think one bit that the allied machines had their own problems. For instance, did you know that IS2 could not track a target? Because, in order to reload, the main gun should be brought in the standard position (perfectly parallel with the hull). To put it simply: you aim, you shoot, and unfortunatelly you miss. You want to reload, yes? Well you have to lose your target, bring the main gun in the standard position, then aim again. What reload? I am pretty sure that a Tiger or even KT could fire at list 2 times untill a new IS2 shot. You think reload time for IS-2 in COH it's unrealistic? Think again.
Oh, really? So what are you telling me it's that (not reffering to this case necessarely) for a pile of mp and fuel I should get something verry questionable? If so, then thank you, I will chose a cheaper unit that actually can be used even if it hasn't this "performance". It would be much more "echonomical wise".
Also, if the jagtiger and isu-152 stay the same, i predict the isu-152 will still be quite often used.
You can still fairly easily predict infantry movement and oneshot capping squads from afar.
And given the heavy nature of alot of axis tanks, it will still be able to hit the occasional heavy.
And the AT wall will prevent any heavier tank short of maybe the panther of flanking it.
The JT, given the mobily of allied tanks and completely innefective againts infantry, will be forgotten.
Think about it guys, something does indeed need to change.
Hmmmm.... you're damn' right! More than this, engaging from max distance is different for ISU and for JagdTiger.
If we think at JagdTiger engaging from max distance an allied tank, this one can quickly disappear in FOW. Not really the case of an infantry squad that is capping, for instance. If not one-shoted by ISU, they will throw themselves to the ground, then they will try to run. just enough time maybe for ISU to fire again. I think under the new circumstances, ISU got the advantage.
Id rather see them require some actual user input and skill to use, than slightly reduce their effectiveness or whatever.
And to be honest, im so happy about this change. No more Jagd or ISU ridiculousness.
Aham, and what about their costs? Why should you spend such a huge amount of resources for something that will create more trouble for you than any other unit and will need alot of babysitting? Why would you do that?
Hm maybe it is harder to play, but i think watching is a more fun if there is RNG. Obviously 1 shotting a vet 3 Squad with full health should not happen. But as a fan i do not only want to watch a pure chess game. I want to watch the horror of one player getting 3 times bad luck - but still keeps fighting and (hopefully) wins by strong mind and even more skillfull strat.
In other words as a fan, i kind of like the tragedy. So RNG needs to get toned just a bit. But should not be negated. Do not forget, this is what Coh2 makes sepecial anyways.
Not that anyone sane would bother to build a Jagdtiger now
I won't, for sure. Good bye Jagdtiger. You served das Vaterland well. Part of your legacy will be carried on by Pak43 and the other part by command Panther.
Ok guys, got the idea, I don't really want to derail the tread, ok? Everybody knows who won the war and why, that's no question about it. Quantity over quality allways wins