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Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2014, 17:01 PMKatitof

But there was kampfgruppe Lehr.
It was called Panzer Lehr and was made of most elite troops wehrmacht had.
Therefore, Panzer Elite. Logical, historically accurate, if you want to argue, there are only semantics to argue.

Its like calling US marienes and US paratroopers 2 different factions, going by your logic.

So much for your pure fantasy. Educate yourself first so you can tell what pure fantasy and what reality is.

There is no rule that another ARMY needs to belong to another FACTION.

Jump back to quoted post28 Mar 2014, 02:31 AMwooof

you cant reduce their armor below 1... it would have no effect. and theres no reason why pios cant be combat units other than the fact they werent before.

Jump back to quoted post28 Mar 2014, 02:27 AMDietBrownie

It's not their speed, it's the fact that scripts lose significant dps when they ohhrah because some of them aren't shooting and they are on the run. I know you didn't but another thing you don't realize is if cons go around a corner and get in close quarters, they will still lose at cqc. Is it game design and was intentional, no, it's because of poor ai. I'm going to quote a post from Jinseul.


From Jinseul, the dog:

"It's hard for me to estimate who's going to be the winner in each engagement when units just hop around like mad every time they get shot at.

statistically Cons should have beat Grens at close combat 2.86 Mosinagants * 6 cons = 17.16 dps. It should take 18.6 seconds to take out one 320 hp Grenadier squad.

Grenadiers 5.86 Kar98k * 4 Grenadiers = 22.72 dps. It should take 21.12 seconds to beat a 480 hp Conscript Squad.

This is at point blank range, but to look at other values.

Range : Conscripts dps | time2killgren | Grenadiers dps | time2killcon

0: 17.6 | 18.18 | 22.72 | 21.12
5: 16.14 | 19.82 | 19.88 | 24.14
10: 12.42 | 25.76 | 17.08 | 28.1
15: 9.9 | 32.32 | 14.92 | 32.17
20: 8.04 | 39.8 | 13.2 | 36.36
25: 6.36 | 50.31 | 11.8 | 40.67



So it looks like the Conscripts are supposed to beat Grenadiers below the range of 20. However, because units hope around being shot at and that units take more then 2 seconds to shoot after moving it doesn't really matter."

Jump back to quoted post28 Mar 2014, 01:55 AMDietBrownie

Scripts aren't like riflemen, not at all. Give us Bars that can suppress for 20 munitions. Oh wait no that ability was ridiculous. Penals now fulfill that role.

"You can easily get into close combat with oorah." I'm sorry who have you been playing against because the grens can simply move back and transition into another piece of cover like they're supposed to. By the time you charge in there like an idiot without cover, you will lose members of your squad and have low dps. That method is ineffective. There are better ways to combat grens, all your doing is giving grenadiers easy vet. LMG kills to much cons fast to the point that it is idiotic if you dont retreat and throw a molotov instead, but lmg comes significantly later so I really don't mind it.

As well with you're argument, bring 2 cons against 1 gren. That's fine and it's always been like that but really you shouldn't bring a spare con rather a vehicle or support weapon. Conspam is pointless and an idiotic thing to do now. Penals are now the backbone of the Soviet army, which to be honest, I like that. I wish they added a jeep and a motorcycle in this game to support my very early units. I miss the effect that if you bring in a motorcycle, it changed the course of the first engagement.