Try reading through some of them.
90% of people who posts on forum do it because something is bothering them. If you lock almost every thread that has negative feedback then whats the point of having a forum? Noone can voice their opinion. Doesnt matter, its dead anyway. GJ. |
Take off your rose-tinted glasses and re-adjust to reality.
You basicly killed off the official forum, grats. Explain to me why locking threads is so fun? |
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My opinion on TFN: Some of it has to do with the game yes.. coh2 is simply not as good as vcoh, thats just a fact, less readability, worse effects, worse sounds and shallow gameplay. But otherwise when i watched TFN for coh2 you could feel you guys werent intrested in the game and that came through and made it boring to watch. Faking excitement is very hard and noone can blame you for not liking the game. But to me that was made your casts not fun to watch. It felt like i watched some guys doing a show because they "should" not that they actually wanted or enjoyed it.
Compared to Tales of Heroes where you could hear the joy in the voice when things heated up in the game.. made you want to play the game while still wanting to keep watching the show. You knew the evening was gonna be a good one when a new episode got released.
So no suprise the viewer numbers werent there, maybe there are other reasons but this is how I see it. |
Stephano gets a ton as well. So did MKP when he streamed. So does Jaedong, and so will Flash if/when he starts. Hell, even HerO gets a whole lot of viewers when he streams. Most, if not all, of these have achieved success comparable with the names you gave; the only difference, really, is how often they stream.
Language really doesn't matter as much as people think; it's a combination of skill, personality, and name recognition. Sure, speaking English helps, but the original complaint wasn't non-English, it was non-native English.
Look at Dota 2. Everyone on Na'Vi get 10k+ viewers when they stream. The people on Alliance who stream get a ton as well. Iceiceice gets 10k+, Dredd gets 10k+, n0tail gets 10k+. These are the most popular streamer in the game, and not a single one is a native English speaker.
Sure there are always exceptions, but most guys you mentioned are guys who have been at multiple events or are otherwise charismatic. Stephano fits that excactly, guy sits and plays and doesnt say a word, i cant understand how it can be entertaining unless he just is well known for winning an event with a really wierd and new kind of strat (mass roaches). People want to be entertained and listen to a native english speaker making jokes and gives his thoughts on the game is 9/10 more fun than watching some polish guy that has to make an effort to complete a sentence. |
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Relic is a studio with talanted people but they have no idea how internet and casual/competative communities work... I just cant understand it after the tragedy that was vcoh that they failed to make it one of the biggest esports games (it was within their grasp) and they mess it up EVEN MORE with the sequel... i always thought coh2 was the golden oppertunity to show the world that RTS combined with moba gameplay could be right up there with dota and sc2. I concider coh warcraft combined with dota gameplay.. atleast in teamgames. |
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I would love to hear relic just for ONCE say where they stand with coh2. Is it still just a "casual" game mostly intended for comp-stomps and derp around in teammgames, mass arty, mass tank style? Or are they finally going to start supporting AND developing more into the competative side of things?
Would be nice to hear so I know if im just wasting my time or not. Sometimes it feels like they refuse to answer so they can keep fooling the competative scene into keep playing the game.
NEWS RELIC!!! A strong and healthy COMPETATIVE scene is free and powerful advertisement to a game. Counter-strike, dota, LoL, warcraft 3 where all games like coh2 as in easy to play but unlike coh2 they still had a hard to master gameplay, years of developing new strategies, new tricks to do that CASUALS enjoy to see and follow and dream that they too can one day do the stuff the best of the best can.
Thats the difference between a well executed casual game to yours relic.. a casual game doesnt have to be shallow to draw in casual players. |
That couldn't be further from the truth really. Maybe in CoH the majority is English, but competitive gaming is far more popular in Europe and Asia than it is in America. Most of the popular SC2 and Dota 2 streamers are not native English speakers.
Can't agree with you at all here. If you look at sc2 for example which streamer has by FAR the biggest viewer numbers? idra, destiny, day9, artosis, incontrol, combatex and most EG guys. When a korean streams (who could be top3 in the world and is far better than any american player) he gets nowhere near the views. Korean guy could get 200 viewers while EG guys have thousands. So being native english speaker helps, it has a lot to do also with americans are more social and have an easytime getting a point across, being funny.. than a swedish or finnish guy would. |
If thats true, then my jaw dropped.
I still can't imagine how will they plant that in 10 secs.
Just get a minesweeper, they are good against mines. |
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Im disappointed... they finally take a look at german mines and still have these expensive massive minefield?? why cant they just add vcoh mines? who ever complained that mines in vcoh was badly designed?? noone... |
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Please give patch notes |
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